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A conversation about AI for science with Jason Pruet

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How about we fix global warming and switch 100% to clean energy, and then invest in AI?

I think climate change is legit. But I also think that a lot of it is just a mechanism to knee cap other countries from progressing. I don’t mind, because it keeps us at the top.

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Clearly AI is worthy of public investment, but given the capture of this administration by tech interests, how can we be sure that public AI funding isn't just handouts to the president's cronies?

LLMs seem to be plateauing. I'd rather let the markets chase AI.

LLMs, maybe. AI? Hardly.

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Clearly AI is worthy of public investment, but given the capture of this administration by tech interests, how can we be sure that public AI funding isn't just handouts to the president's cronies?

How about we fix global warming and switch 100% to clean energy, and then invest in AI?

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Re: A conversation about AI for science with Jason Pruet

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Clearly AI is worthy of public investment, but given the capture of this administration by tech interests, how can we be sure that public AI funding isn't just handouts to the president's cronies?

How about we fix global warming and switch 100% to clean energy, and then invest in AI?

We can't just switch to clean energy, we would need to drastically reduce our energy use per capita.

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How about we fix global warming and switch 100% to clean energy, and then invest in AI?

AI might be faster path to solving those issues.

AI doesn't yet exist as far ad we know, and LLMs will only be helpful at generating a massive amount of guesses at how a human may describe the solution.

At best its a needle in a haystack approach, and one that seems to toss out methodical, reasoned science in favor of a blunderbuss.

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How about we fix global warming and switch 100% to clean energy, and then invest in AI?

Let's also cure cancer and stop all wars while we're at it.

Don’t forget world hunger.

I don’t understand this line of reasoning - it’s like saying “you’re not allowed steam engines until you drain all of your mines”. It’s moralistic, rather than pragmatic.

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To the extent that further improvements to AI remain economically useful, "let's do these other things first" means your economy trails behind those of whoever did work on the AI. To the extent that further improvements to AI are either snake oil or just hard to monopolise on, doing everything else first is of course the best idea. Even though I'm more on the side of finding these things impressive, it's not at all c…

Is generative AI economically useful? More economically useful than switching to renewable energy?

There are notable similarities between a wartime economy and one continually adapting to global warming. While perhaps not sustainable long-term, we may observe short-term economic growth driven by government spending, followed by extended inflationary periods. We might currently be experiencing the first cycle of this kind, with more likely to follow.

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Clearly AI is worthy of public investment, but given the capture of this administration by tech interests, how can we be sure that public AI funding isn't just handouts to the president's cronies?

HN commenters in 1960:

> Clearly computer networking is worthy of public investment, but given the capture of this administration by military industrial interests, how can we be sure that public networking funding isn't just handouts to the president's cronies?

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> What is the alternative? Reasonably there should be a two way exchange? It might be okay for companies to piggyback on research funds if that also means that more research insight enters public knowledge.

I’d be happy if they just paid their fair share of tax and stopped acting like they were self-made when they really just piggybacked on public funds and research. There’s zero acknowledgment or appreciation of public infra and research.

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