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Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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Yes, and given the current administration’s pardon practice, being shamelessly unrepentant and flagrantly likely to be a recidivist looks more like a positive than a negative consideration.

A thought just came to me, that the selling of indulgences triggered the Reformation.

It's been a moneymaker for a long time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/31-line_Indulgence

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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Yea I now see that, but what ever happened to the word “boyfriend”? It does the job and doesn’t sound like something out of 19th century literature or “clandestine” as a sibling commenter is saying. I see the same thing happening in Spanish - no one can say “novio/a” anymore. Why?

Strange. I don't think "lover" sounds illicit in any way, though maybe it suggests youth and romanticism.

Definition 4a in Webster is "paramour", which is "an illicit or secret lover". It isn't the primary definition for sure, but in this context that's the vibe it gives off.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lover

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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Awful title; this is her husband, not her "lover."

1: they were never married 2: why is lover so bad? I see the hate in this discussion for the phrase, but I don't get it. Is it some modern thing where we're supposed to separate the concept of marriage from sex due to asexual types or some such? legitimate question : I don't get it. I'm more than willing to avoid the use of lover, but someone at least explain it to me. would more casual concepts like 'defacto' or 'co…

To a native English speaker, the term "lover" here has an unnecessary sexual connotation, which is a silly thing to highlight. They are married (supposedly), and thus he is her husband.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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I’m guessing it was trying to distinguish between him and her previous business partners?

Well, her previous business partner & lover was a co-conspirator iirc (the CFO).

I am afraid that a few facts cannot be denied. The Wikipedia article details several things: that she was in some sort of clandestine romance with the co-founder, Ramesh Balwani. That she alleged sexual assault and abuse from him and other people in the course of her rise to notoriety. That she allegedly married Billy Evans and definitely had children by him, as well. That the most recent conception of her child may or may not have been a bargaining chip for her criminal trial. I don't know about other men, but to me, her photos indicate that she is extremely attractive, and seems to be into Steve Jobs type turtleneck chic, which is an interesting angle for the financial villain role she's assumed.

In light of all these facts, I, for one, would say that "partner" is an impoverished term to use in this headline, because what really does that signify? A business partner? Come on. There are obstacles here to clarity of terminology, due to the dubious nature of her legal marriage and such. But this is a woman who seems to have leveraged her sexuality to every advantage, as well as being taken advantage of in return. Not a good scene!

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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If its possible to keep creating and rug pulling new shitcoins, then it seems obvious that the same can be done with medical start-ups. What a weird world we are living in.

Billy McFarland, famed "entrepreneur" behind Fyre Fest got out of jail and immediately announced plans for raising funds for Fyre Fest 2. Apparently there are enough suckers to go around, so why not just copy/paste the original scam instead of doing the work of tweaking it to boost legitimacy?

https://www.biography.com/crime/a63917214/billy-mcfarland-no...

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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Rather than focusing on Holmes and her lover, I'd like to posit some other questions I have with this approach. Let's assume for just a minute that Holmes wasn't trying to rug pull and that she genuinely wanted Theranos to succeed in it's stated mission. Wouldn't a foundational invention like this 20-30 years ago come out of a university lab? It feels like VC funding is not the right vehicle for the kind of developme…

That was implication of the original con. She was this superstar Stanford undergrad who’d discovered something so radically important she had to drop out of school for the sake of humanity.

She wasn't a "superstar" in any way whatsoever. She dropped out after 1 year of undergrad, with zero papers published where she was a principal author, or anything that would even hint that she knew what she was doing. She was rich and connected so was able to get funding on the basis of not much more than a powerpoint and a couple of supportive professors.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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post #51

OP here. I edited the title from Partner to Lover to distinguish between business and romantic partners but I just found out "Lover" carries an incendiary connotation in American English as opposed to British English. Not my intention at all....

How about something simple and accurate like "baby daddy"?

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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Matt Levine (financial columnist) often makes the point (or joke) that in fund management there a tendency to reward (as in: they get more money to manage) people who lost a lot of money, on the basis that they did manage to have a lot of money to start with, make bold bets, and should at least have learned something at this point.

That is not unique to fund managers. Second time entrepreneurs are more likely to raise capital even if their first venture failed and spectacularly so. Adam Neumann got funded by a16z(their largest?) despite all the governance issues at Wework , there are many other examples of high profile and regular entrepreneurs getting funding .

The difference is that Neumann didn't attempt to conceal his scam in the slightest, and more importantly, he didn't break any laws, just screwed over his investors.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

#70

Tangent but why does the title here says lover while the article says partner; no fan of Holmes, based on that, a probably (unfair?) low opinion of this guy, but come on.

I reported what was the actual and correct title and got downvoted for it :-)
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