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NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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This isn't about science, issues, or voting. The message is: "We don't like you and it would be better if you weren't around". Also, why is NSF fielding 40,000 proposals per year? That is 110 proposals per day. Is there really that much science to perform and not enough universities to host it? Not at all. It exists because every state and local government and educational institution is incentivized to solicit federa…

> Is there really that much science to perform and not enough universities to host it?

Why not? Science is a vast field.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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The NSF budget is ~$10billion. That's about half of NASA's, 1.2% of the DoD's, 0.5% of the discretionary budget ($1.7 trillion). Why is this the focus of the admin? Science is one of the few things the US is doing well.

Less public funding -> less competition for private sector R&D, e.g. big pharma

I doubt that - pharma and biotech are some of the biggest benefactors of government funded research.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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The NSF funded my graduate research. It feels like someone is going through my past and burning all of the ladders that helped me grow and succeed.

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> Lastly you are implying that your graduate research was something that advanced some combination of science, humanity, the country...

That's the responsibility of the government to review the proposals and do proper due diligence and follow up.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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The NSF budget is ~$10billion. That's about half of NASA's, 1.2% of the DoD's, 0.5% of the discretionary budget ($1.7 trillion). Why is this the focus of the admin? Science is one of the few things the US is doing well.

> Why is this the focus of the admin? Science is one of the few things the US is doing well.

Real answer: universities are "woke" and liberal. This is their punishment.

Destroying science research is just collateral damage.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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How do you figure? If they simply changed the grant writing process back to what it was before Biden, that argument would make sense. Cutting back funding and approvals wholesale points to a more nefarious know-nothing attitude toward research.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Having employees of academic institutions doing the vetting sounds like it could easily evolve into a conflict of interest.

"" The initial vetting is handled by hundreds of program officers, all experts in their field and some of whom are on temporary leave from academic positions. ""

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