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Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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Most people's Facebook friends are people they know, so probably not. I mean, if this were actually the case there would be no reason to "reify the concept." Reify for whom?

> Most people's Facebook friends are people they know, so probably not. The individuals actually on most people's Facebook friends list are people they know (who probably haven't logged in to the site in 5+ years on average) but the actual feed you see when interacting with the site is like 1-5% those people and 95-99% shit-posting meme accounts you never asked to see that almost certainly are entirely AI driven at t…

In the virtual world, I do not believe these meme accounts will ever vanish, nor will platforms give you the magic button to not see them.

Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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> “I think people are going to want a system that knows them well and that kind of understands them in the way that their feed algorithms do,” My god, he thinks people like their feed algorithm.

billions of people visit their feed hourly. I think it's fair to say that [some] people like their feed algorithm. edited to add [some]

If you ask around, how many people who constantly uses their feed you think will answer "I love this product and the feed I get"?

I don't know many people in real life who praises it, it's a thing that some are absolutely addicted to, others use as a pastime in the bathroom, in queues, anywhere they would get bored. Many even display the same behaviour as addicts, they don't want to be there, and have to create friction and obstacles to make them avoid it, just this weekend I taught a friend on how they could limit their time on Instagram after he opened up that it was just making him sad and he couldn't stop, tried deleting the app a few times and always ended up reinstalling in a couple of days.

You are falling into the same trap as Zuck, just because usage is high doesn't mean people like it.

Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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post #24

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Are all of Mark's friends LLMs, ergo he thinks everyone else's should be too?

To a rich person, anyone who interacts with them is likely to be after their money. So from his point of view, LLMs are actually conversation partners who he knows aren't seeing him as a rich person, and so may actually feel more trustworthy than real people. Of course, this is entirely in conflict with the fact that he will be training LLMs to extract everyone else's money. But emotions aren't logical.

Conversation partners? More like stooges who'll validate their every thought and kiss their ass along the way. Of all the models I've tried, only Gemini tries to pushback hard whenever I say something wrong or illogical.

Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most people's Facebook friends are people they know, so probably not. The individuals actually on most people's Facebook friends list are people they know (who probably haven't logged in to the site in 5+ years on average) but the actual feed you see when interacting with the site is like 1-5% those people and 95-99% shit-posting meme accounts you never asked to see that almost certainly are entirely AI driven at t…

In the virtual world, I do not believe these meme accounts will ever vanish, nor will platforms give you the magic button to not see them.

I don't disagree with either of those predictions, which is one of the main reasons why I just don't engage with those platforms anymore.

Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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We allowed unsocialised nerds with no understanding of friendship and society dictate how friends and societies work and flourish. Absolute disaster.

No, some people allowed that. Those people decided that was a good idea for them despite there being reports of the bad effects. And even when other similar options arrived they stayed. Absolute disaster

Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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I know it is a controversial topic, but do adults really need friends? I feel like "being friends" is something from middle school where our brains were different. Now, there are colleagues, there are neighbors, there is the partner that is supposedly our only and best friend, and optionally there are pets/kids. But proper friends? In my life and in the life of people that I observe regularly, there is no real need f…

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Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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post #6

> “I think people are going to want a system that knows them well and that kind of understands them in the way that their feed algorithms do,” My god, he thinks people like their feed algorithm.

billions of people visit their feed hourly. I think it's fair to say that [some] people like their feed algorithm. edited to add [some]

The algorithmic feed is the default one whenever you visit the site. It doesn't mean people like it, only that this is where they go first before clicking through to the "Friends" feed — sure, they could bookmark the friends feed, but will they? I mean, I vaguely remember that a fresh install of safari has facebook.com itself as a default bookmark, though I always delete such things and memory is fallible.

And that's without counting the addictive vs. valuable distinction that the other replies are making.

Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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No, we used a tool, and we've got addicted. Some fought that addiction, others are not figuring out what is going on yet. Free market and shiny gadget.

The tool is implicitly anti-human but designed for socialization. That sounds like a bad recipe, no?

Bad. We thought that something would be fixed when they brought them to justice. Everything is on the same pace or even accelerated.

Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

#70

zuckerberg's next big miss in a future where AI is doing most of the mundane work, real / personal connections are infinitely more valuable as everything else becomes commoditized background noise

I have doubt, Tiktok is full of young women, saying they like Chatgpt more then their friends now.
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