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Re: Internet usage pattern during power outage in Spain and Portugal

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Post by ornitorrincos »

charliebwrites wrote: post #18
alexpotato wrote: post #3

> Germans take a 1 hour lunch from 12-1pm. Spaniards have a later lunch, starting around 1pm, and going on until 4 or 5pm. This could possibly be due to the tradition of afternoon siesta. NPR had a podcast episode (Planet Money maybe?) about how the EU was supposed to make it easier for firms to hire cross border and employees to move around. The idea was to be more like the United States. Apparently, this didn't qui…

> lunch … starting around 1pm, and going on until 4 or 5pm So wait when do they get work done? Do they just work later into the night?

the only people I know who do that are shopkeepers as they stay closed until 5 when people start leaving work

Re: Internet usage pattern during power outage in Spain and Portugal

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Post by seszett »

Funes- wrote: post #52

>Germans take a 1 hour lunch from 12-1pm. Spaniards have a later lunch, starting around 1pm, and going on until 4 or 5pm. This could possibly be due to the tradition of afternoon siesta. This is not only untrue, but I would argue it also borders on being defamatory, consciously or not. Lunch breaks are typically one to two hours long in Spain, not three to four hours long--that's ridiculous . What the author is descr…

They misunderstood "one or two-hour lunch anywhere between 1pm to 5pm" for "4-hour lunch from 1pm to 5pm". Same with France, people have a 1-hour lunch either from 12 to 1pm or from 1pm to 2pm, rarely a 2-hour lunch.

Re: Internet usage pattern during power outage in Spain and Portugal

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Post by snkzxbs »

Funes- wrote: post #52

>Germans take a 1 hour lunch from 12-1pm. Spaniards have a later lunch, starting around 1pm, and going on until 4 or 5pm. This could possibly be due to the tradition of afternoon siesta. This is not only untrue, but I would argue it also borders on being defamatory, consciously or not. Lunch breaks are typically one to two hours long in Spain, not three to four hours long--that's ridiculous . What the author is descr…

You are missing the fact that a lot of people in Spain, maybe the majority, do what’s called a “jornada partida”, which means that businesses close at around 1-2 pm and then reopen at around 5-6 pm. During that time people generally have lunch and maybe sleep.

Especially during the hotter months, the streets are practically empty.

Re: Internet usage pattern during power outage in Spain and Portugal

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Post by bluesmoon »

Funes- wrote: post #52

>Germans take a 1 hour lunch from 12-1pm. Spaniards have a later lunch, starting around 1pm, and going on until 4 or 5pm. This could possibly be due to the tradition of afternoon siesta. This is not only untrue, but I would argue it also borders on being defamatory, consciously or not. Lunch breaks are typically one to two hours long in Spain, not three to four hours long--that's ridiculous . What the author is descr…

That's a fair criticism. The data suggests that there are different breaks spread out over that 3-4 hour period, not one break of 3-4 hours. I've reworded it accordingly.

Re: Internet usage pattern during power outage in Spain and Portugal

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Post by dcrazy »

snkzxbs wrote: post #63
Funes- wrote: post #52

>Germans take a 1 hour lunch from 12-1pm. Spaniards have a later lunch, starting around 1pm, and going on until 4 or 5pm. This could possibly be due to the tradition of afternoon siesta. This is not only untrue, but I would argue it also borders on being defamatory, consciously or not. Lunch breaks are typically one to two hours long in Spain, not three to four hours long--that's ridiculous . What the author is descr…

You are missing the fact that a lot of people in Spain, maybe the majority, do what’s called a “jornada partida”, which means that businesses close at around 1-2 pm and then reopen at around 5-6 pm. During that time people generally have lunch and maybe sleep. Especially during the hotter months, the streets are practically empty.

This seemed to me to vary by region. It was near universal when I visited Andalucía, including in Sevilla. It was uncommon in Madrid, and I don’t remember encountering it at all in Barcelona.

Re: Internet usage pattern during power outage in Spain and Portugal

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Post by bluesmoon »

seszett wrote: post #62
Funes- wrote: post #52

>Germans take a 1 hour lunch from 12-1pm. Spaniards have a later lunch, starting around 1pm, and going on until 4 or 5pm. This could possibly be due to the tradition of afternoon siesta. This is not only untrue, but I would argue it also borders on being defamatory, consciously or not. Lunch breaks are typically one to two hours long in Spain, not three to four hours long--that's ridiculous . What the author is descr…

They misunderstood "one or two-hour lunch anywhere between 1pm to 5pm" for "4-hour lunch from 1pm to 5pm". Same with France, people have a 1-hour lunch either from 12 to 1pm or from 1pm to 2pm, rarely a 2-hour lunch.

Thanks for the feedback. It's more correct to say that traffic drops off for 3-4 hours rather than everyone goes offline for 3-4 hours. It's likely to be staggered based on the slope of the curve at that point.

Re: Internet usage pattern during power outage in Spain and Portugal

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Post by dagw »

snkzxbs wrote: post #63
Funes- wrote: post #52

>Germans take a 1 hour lunch from 12-1pm. Spaniards have a later lunch, starting around 1pm, and going on until 4 or 5pm. This could possibly be due to the tradition of afternoon siesta. This is not only untrue, but I would argue it also borders on being defamatory, consciously or not. Lunch breaks are typically one to two hours long in Spain, not three to four hours long--that's ridiculous . What the author is descr…

You are missing the fact that a lot of people in Spain, maybe the majority, do what’s called a “jornada partida”, which means that businesses close at around 1-2 pm and then reopen at around 5-6 pm. During that time people generally have lunch and maybe sleep. Especially during the hotter months, the streets are practically empty.

Is that actually still a big thing? I've worked on several projects with people in Spain, and none of them did that. Lunch was never more than an hour, and basically everybody was back from lunch and working by 2.30 at the latest.

Re: Internet usage pattern during power outage in Spain and Portugal

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Post by wink »

dagi3d wrote: post #58

>Spaniards have a later lunch, starting around 1pm, and going on until 4 or 5pm. This could possibly be due to the tradition of afternoon siesta. It's "funny" how someone that is supposed to be so smart, can be so ignorant at the same time

Or bad at interpreting data?

Of course not all Germans go for lunch at 12-1 but unless you are in retail or your team has decided 1-2 is better, or 30min is enough.. I think it's just a very good guess that it's 12-1 for most the people. If it was a real 50:50 split between 12-1 or 1-2 then it could look like a 2h break. Unsure, I can't read their data properly.

Re: Internet usage pattern during power outage in Spain and Portugal

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Post by dcrazy »

bluesmoon wrote: post #65
Funes- wrote: post #52

>Germans take a 1 hour lunch from 12-1pm. Spaniards have a later lunch, starting around 1pm, and going on until 4 or 5pm. This could possibly be due to the tradition of afternoon siesta. This is not only untrue, but I would argue it also borders on being defamatory, consciously or not. Lunch breaks are typically one to two hours long in Spain, not three to four hours long--that's ridiculous . What the author is descr…

That's a fair criticism. The data suggests that there are different breaks spread out over that 3-4 hour period, not one break of 3-4 hours. I've reworded it accordingly.

It’s accurate for business hours in at least some parts of the country, but it is paired with late closing. Even office workers will be on the job until 8. Popular wisdom attributes it to Franco’s adoption of Central European Time to be aligned with Hitler.
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