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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by ffsm8 »

justinrubek wrote: post #34
bhouston wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain and reference sources? Otherwise it is a pretty vague comment.

How do you suppose such evidence could be procured? I understand the burden of proof in terms of claims, but this is one that is, by design, difficult to gather substantial evidence for. Particularly without legal/criminal repercussions, and that's in good times when they are at least making an attempt to follow the law.

Is it? I mean it wasn't a particularly spicy statement - did anyone actually think the president wrote any of the plans he's greenlighting / signing?

If anything, I was kinda confused why he called that into question, the job of the president is to decide whose plan is getting executed at any given time, not actually do the planning himself

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by afavour »

bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

> Right now I have some faith the courts in the US will stand up to this and get the US back on track

I don't mean to sound hysterical but I don't share your faith for two main reasons:

- my faith in the Supreme Court diminishes with every year. It is clear a majority are far more motivated by ideology than a straightforward reading of the law

- Trump can just ignore the courts. We're not there yet but all signs show we're going in that direction. The end point of that trajectory is the involvement of the police and/or the military. I really, really hope we don't go there.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by lazide »

netsharc wrote: post #19
bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

The executive branch has ignored the courts a few times, basically saying "What are you going to do about it?". I feel like it has to lead to a standoff of some group with guns saying they're following the courts/defending the constitution against another group with guns saying they're following the orders of the president (just like those Nazis who were "just following orders"). I need to print t-shirts with "Is it…

One of the first orders of business was asserting the executive branch (really the white house) was the final authority for the executive branch on what a court order or court ruling ‘means’.

He just has to say ‘nuh uh’, and as long as people want their jobs, that’s it.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by morkalork »

bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

Looks dicey:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-attorney-general-bondi-t...

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/white-ho...

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by howard941 »

bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

The courts aren't going to save us. No one is going to save us.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by dragonwriter »

bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

> Right now I have some faith the courts in the US will stand up to this and get the US back on track

You should not. The courts are doing a reasonable approximation of their job, but have no independent enforcement power against the executive and the executive is not being particularly fastidious about compliance with court orders, and there seems to be no willingness either for lower executive officers to comply regardless of direction from above or for Congress to force accountability.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by next_xibalba »

cyberlurker wrote: post #14

Is it unusual for an executive order to claim something like this without any citation or reference? > The CPB fails to abide by these principles to the extent it subsidizes NPR and PBS. > Which viewpoints NPR and PBS promote does not matter. > What does matter is that neither entity presents a fair, accurate, or unbiased portrayal of current events to taxpaying citizens.

To wit, during the BLM riots of 2020, NPR published a piece on how looting was a legitimate form of protest. I mark that as the moment they lost both my trust and my attention. A very sad, eye opening moment for me.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by footlose_3815 »

mmastrac wrote: post #4

This is quite sad. PBS and NPR were jewels of the American system. The right-wing has latched on to the message that all public-funded media that isn't right-wing-biased is _bad_ and are trying to kill it everywhere. We are constantly fighting the same battle in Canada where the right-wing accuses media of being left-leaning, while most major news outlets are actually American-owned and slant right a lot of the time.…

Reality is left-leaning because right-leaning is narratives created from human fear of the unknown. Their marching orders frequently come from billionaire robber barons who own too much, and want to tell the public that's OK.

If we actually swallowed the red pills, we'd all be slaves with no ownership, no education, and no rights. The same thing they frequently accuse socialism of.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by cyberlurker »

beardedwizard wrote: post #42
cyberlurker wrote: post #14

Is it unusual for an executive order to claim something like this without any citation or reference? > The CPB fails to abide by these principles to the extent it subsidizes NPR and PBS. > Which viewpoints NPR and PBS promote does not matter. > What does matter is that neither entity presents a fair, accurate, or unbiased portrayal of current events to taxpaying citizens.

I'm a big supporter of NPR but you don't need to look hard to see their progressive bias.

I listen to planet money and a few other podcasts. They seem pretty fair to me. The only way I could maybe see a progressive bias is that they have representation in their staff of racial and sexual minorities. I see no issue with that.

Honest question, does NPR have any token conservative pundits or voices on their broadcasts or shows? I know they have a lot of minority representation. As usual, Trumps proposed solution is idiotic. But maybe there could be an unofficial settlement to make sure all perspectives are heard?

Assuming this is even a problem…

The attack on PBS seems ridiculous.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

alabastervlog wrote: post #58
mbfg wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Project 2025 is the playbook, plenty of references on line.

As with the Project for a New American Century douchebags, they just straight-up told us the bad things they were going to do to the country, and now they're doing them, and people still manage to be all, "hey, where'd all this stuff come from?!". Our news media are terrible .

This was all widely reported, I'm not sure why you're criticizing the news media.
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