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We need more optimistic science fiction

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Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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Optimistic science fiction shows humanity applying unique ingenuity to solve tough problems. Our lived reality today is that we already know the technical solutions to many tough problems (hunger, homelessness, many diseases, overpopulation, climate change, war) but simply refuse to apply them. Of course people don’t believe optimistic sci-fi anymore. Star Trek the original series is usually taken as an example of op…

Is the purpose of mankind to support drug-addled hobos?

Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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Unpopular take, and note, I am not an expert: There seems to be an overabundance of sci-fi that is hyperoptimistic with regard to tech advances. The 2nd law of thermodynamics is not understood by most, or waved away as 'overcome thru future science'. fwiw, here's a few works I've found to be less the above: book: Kim Stanley Robinson's _Aurora_ short stories: Damon Knight's _Stranger Station_ Larry Nivens' _Inconstan…

Exactly ! Just simple : Do we have any complex mechanism which works for last 100 years nonstop without fail ? Answers question of generational ships towards other solar systems. XD

> Do we have any complex mechanism which works for last 100 years nonstop without fail ?

For the following examples, this question is open, and you might have a different opinion whether they fit your opinion of "complex", but the following are candidates that I am aware of:

The 10,000 Year Clock (Clock of the Long Now)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_of_the_Long_Now

https://www.10000yearclock.net/index.html

The organ in the St. Burchardi church in Halberstadt (Germany) that is used to play the ORGAN²/ASLSP (As Slow as Possible) by John Cage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

https://www.aslsp.org/

Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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On Twitter, Colin Fraser pointed out that Black Mirror was somewhat optimistic in that the horrible evil technology actually works as described[1]. Truly pessimistic science fiction would have - people worshipping an AI God which is demonstrably dumber than a dog - friendly humanoid robots which don't really understand how to walk down a flight of stairs - gravitational warp drives which are purely cosmetic and canno…

There is a science fiction story, I don’t remember who wrote it or the title, where humanity discovers a way to modify the speed of light within a region. Excited, they work incredibly hard to implement the technology, only to discover they can only make it slower. Maybe it was jumping to a parallel universe to travel and then jumping back. But the same issue: the limit was lower.

Something similar to this comes up in Death's End, the last book in the Remembrance of Earth's Past trilogy.

Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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Optimistic science fiction shows humanity applying unique ingenuity to solve tough problems. Our lived reality today is that we already know the technical solutions to many tough problems (hunger, homelessness, many diseases, overpopulation, climate change, war) but simply refuse to apply them. Of course people don’t believe optimistic sci-fi anymore. Star Trek the original series is usually taken as an example of op…

That negative view doesn’t match the underlying reality of the world today. We’re simply getting a closer look at just what most people are like on social media/reality TV/streaming etc. Meanwhile the past sucked.

Consider what are the major issues right now that aren’t being addressed? Global poverty is at an all time low, climate change has been met with vast investments in solar/wind/batteries/EV’s etc, there’s suddenly effective drugs for obesity, poverty’s down, medicine keeps advancing and antibiotic resistance is being slowed down by better methodologies, etc

The mainstream in the US is far more accepting than ever, remember when gay marriage was illegal? Yea interracial marriage was illegal in some areas as recently as 1967.

Not everything is improving in lockstep, but the general trends aren’t nearly as bad as you imply.

Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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My biggest issue with most scifi now-a-days is it ignores the acceleration of tech. Of course there's "Accelerando" and "Marooned in Realtime" but lots of scifi has "race/society X has been doing Y for 1000s of years" and now I immediately tune out because no society is going to remain static enough to do Y for thousands of years unless there is some premise in the book preventing anyone from inventing anything new.…

> Of course I get that Star Wars isn't hard sci-fi. It's fantasy sci-fi, hence we have droids that scream and get tortured ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The genre of Star Wars is "Space Opera":

> https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceOpera

Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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AI, give me an optimistic sci fi plot for the world. AI, now compare it to communism.

97% match!

I find it particularly hilarious that some AIs insist in deal with communism saying stuff like "stated goals" or "theoretical", but for the sci fi plot they go full throttle on the make believe like "pff, don't worry bro"

Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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AI, give me an optimistic sci fi plot for the world. AI, now compare it to communism.

> AI, give me an optimistic sci fi plot for the world.

> AI, now compare it to communism.

Considering how every attempt of communism has turned out, this optimistic science fiction plot better turns out to be quite different from communism.

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