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Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Post by esseph »

paxys wrote: post #39
mkhalil wrote: post #24

Did anyone read this article? The headline is misleading. It clearly states in the first line: > "Google’s contract with Lenovo Group Ltd.’s Motorola blocked the smartphone maker from setting Perplexity AI as the default assistant on its new devices" They didn't block Perplexity AI from Motorola's devices, the agreement states that they allow them to preload the devices with Perplexity, but the agreement, that both p…

Most online journalism relies on clickbait, and they know people aren't going to read too much past the headline to care (and 99% of threads on sites like HN clearly demonstrate that).

You should just say 99% of material, because it has nothing to do with the "type" of site, what you're talking about is just a human behavior.

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Post by makeitdouble »

throwaway314155 wrote: post #59
627467 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They signed the agreement, and now are going to courts to claim they had no choice. Did the title change? They (Lenovo) are going to court? This is an antitrust case against Google and the witness is not part of the agreement signed. Is Lenovo suing Google? The title is representing the witness (perplexity) stance, not Lenovo's. And given it's a antitrust suit it seems like a very valid stance.

Read it again perhaps? Without any of that context, it just reads like "google blocked [some/all] use of Perplexity AI on [some/all] Motorola devices" Try not to overthink it.

Even rereading the whole thread I don't get what is misleading. Google and Motorola signed an agreement, and it blocks Motorola from using Perplexity as its core search engine.

Saying Google has no part in this would be wrong, and the fact that the agreement was mutual doesn't change the restrictions.

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Post by behringer »

mkhalil wrote: post #24

Did anyone read this article? The headline is misleading. It clearly states in the first line: > "Google’s contract with Lenovo Group Ltd.’s Motorola blocked the smartphone maker from setting Perplexity AI as the default assistant on its new devices" They didn't block Perplexity AI from Motorola's devices, the agreement states that they allow them to preload the devices with Perplexity, but the agreement, that both p…

If Lenovo wants preferential terms they have to sign.

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Post by MrDarcy »

benoau wrote: post #53
mkhalil wrote: post #24

Did anyone read this article? The headline is misleading. It clearly states in the first line: > "Google’s contract with Lenovo Group Ltd.’s Motorola blocked the smartphone maker from setting Perplexity AI as the default assistant on its new devices" They didn't block Perplexity AI from Motorola's devices, the agreement states that they allow them to preload the devices with Perplexity, but the agreement, that both p…

They blocked Perplexity via agreements, amongst many agreements to fortify their monopoly, the legality of which has been challenged in court and this testimony is to demonstrate that this agreement also belongs in the "illegal" bucket.

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Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Post by zodiakzz »

MrDarcy wrote: post #64
benoau wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They blocked Perplexity via agreements, amongst many agreements to fortify their monopoly, the legality of which has been challenged in court and this testimony is to demonstrate that this agreement also belongs in the "illegal" bucket.

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Google could be running foul of antitrust laws if forcing Gemini as default on Android OEM's is part of the standard contract required to use the Android brand.

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Post by NikolaNovak »

kstrauser wrote: post #45
xnx wrote: post #16

It continues to baffle me that Google gets harassed by the courts for being a better actor in almost every area it participates. Open source Android vs. closed iOS Install apps from any source on Android vs. total restriction on iOS Switch default app for browser (and many other things!) vs. No choice but Safari tech on iOS Easy switch of search provider in Chrome vs. countless dark patterns pushing Edge and Bing on…

For the record, none of those are objectively "better". You and I may think they're better. Lots, lots , as in billions of people, couldn't care less: > Open source Android vs. closed iOS Almost no one outside specific tech circles cares, and even if they understood what it meant, still wouldn't care. > Install apps from any source on Android vs. total restriction on iOS That's one of the primary reasons I suggest th…

I would agree with that in principle if it were remotely true, but on my iPhone, when I searched for chatgpt or openai when they came out, I got half a dozen fake apps before the real one. And that's been the case for so many search terms for popular apps or areas. There are 1.8 million apps on iOS app store! How do they get this aura and image of safety and reliability? Or, how do I find that safe walled garden? :)

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Post by cyberax »

osti wrote: post #46
cyberax wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So companies should just bow down to Google to produce phones? That's the definition of monopoly.

As opposed to bow down to Apple and oh, still can't make an iOS phone?

Apple also is a monopolist.

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Post by cyberax »

mvdtnz wrote: post #44
cyberax wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point, an Android phone without Google Play Services is mostly useless. You can't use maps, you can't even use notifications!

Google Maps must be the biggest value-add Google has built for their phone ecosystem, full stop. I see no reason they should give that away no strings attached. I am no Google fan but it's one of the few things they have done which positively impacts me almost daily.

Other rather crucial functionality also depends on GPS. E.g. background tasks, notifications, etc.

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Post by hotstickyballs »

MrDarcy wrote: post #64
benoau wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They blocked Perplexity via agreements, amongst many agreements to fortify their monopoly, the legality of which has been challenged in court and this testimony is to demonstrate that this agreement also belongs in the "illegal" bucket.

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True, but this just added extra visibility to the anti trust case

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Post by gostsamo »

MrDarcy wrote: post #64
benoau wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They blocked Perplexity via agreements, amongst many agreements to fortify their monopoly, the legality of which has been challenged in court and this testimony is to demonstrate that this agreement also belongs in the "illegal" bucket.

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mmm, which part of the constitution? I remember one explicit delegation to the federal government of the cross border trade, plus a long list of items that people are forbidden from trading freely, plus, recently, a long list of items where the government meddles by imposing taxes on imported trade.
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