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DHL suspends B2C shipments over 800 USD until further notice

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Re: DHL suspends B2C shipments over 800 USD until further notice

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Post by phil21 »

AStonesThrow wrote: post #7
master_crab wrote: post #4

Wouldn’t be surprised if UPS and FedEx follow suit. The frequently shifting tariff silliness is forcing companies to sit things out.

I mean, how often is it really necessary for an ordinary consumer to directly import stuff? The last time I imported from an overseas order, I was enthralled by a hot blonde Irish singer and buying all her CDs, but most of them were also on eBay from American sellers who already did the messy work of importing goods.

Pretty often for savvy consumers of certain product groups. It all comes from China anyways, so if you know what you're doing you can easily save 50% or more buying direct from the source vs. a reseller on Amazon. Even better if you were participating in group buys of certain items.

Cutting out the middleman is a good thing for consumers which is going away.

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AStonesThrow wrote: post #7
master_crab wrote: post #4

Wouldn’t be surprised if UPS and FedEx follow suit. The frequently shifting tariff silliness is forcing companies to sit things out.

I mean, how often is it really necessary for an ordinary consumer to directly import stuff? The last time I imported from an overseas order, I was enthralled by a hot blonde Irish singer and buying all her CDs, but most of them were also on eBay from American sellers who already did the messy work of importing goods.

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Re: DHL suspends B2C shipments over 800 USD until further notice

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Post by terribleperson »

bdcravens wrote: post #56
terribleperson wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's basically every Prusa sale unless you're buying from Printed Solid.

Wouldn't most US shipments be coming from Printed Solid? That's Prusa's US distributor.

Most people don't order from Printed Solid, because they've historically been more expensive than just importing a Prusa. I imagine that will change now.

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Post by jmathai »

cantrecallmypwd wrote: post #30
teeray wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Re: DHL suspends B2C shipments over 800 USD until further notice

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Post by II2II »

TechDebtDevin wrote: post #23
ummonk wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s tariffs. Goods under $800 have de minimis exemption from tariffs.

Yes, but they are overhauling that. De minimis is going away for Chinese goods (and definately did give companies like ali express an unfair advantage with price conscious shoppers). I honestly dont know how the IOT space is going to manage. Espressif microcontrollers that used to cost < $2.00 that you could slap in a security camera are going to cost $50.00 now.

I also wonder how it is going to affect the US's ability to develop their electronics industry in the long term. It's not just manufacturing and components at stake here. Many people are exposed to and learn about electronics design through less expensive Chinese products. Maybe American companies will step up and address these markets again. Maybe. Or maybe not.

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Post by throw310822 »

TechDebtDevin wrote: post #17
rietta wrote: post #5

How does a home-based business demonstrate their business bona fides here? Having a business account with DHL? Having a business name?

You can get an Biz entity(and anyone who shoukd have one likely already does or has been meaning to) for < $50.00 and you can bet your ass that number will be coming down as the economy falls apart. During the covid crisis I could register LLCs in Colorado for $1.00 with a yearly renewal fee.

"there are 50 million new startups! The economy is doing great, we made American great again!" /s

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Post by TechDebtDevin »

II2II wrote: post #65
TechDebtDevin wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but they are overhauling that. De minimis is going away for Chinese goods (and definately did give companies like ali express an unfair advantage with price conscious shoppers). I honestly dont know how the IOT space is going to manage. Espressif microcontrollers that used to cost < $2.00 that you could slap in a security camera are going to cost $50.00 now.

I also wonder how it is going to affect the US's ability to develop their electronics industry in the long term. It's not just manufacturing and components at stake here. Many people are exposed to and learn about electronics design through less expensive Chinese products. Maybe American companies will step up and address these markets again. Maybe. Or maybe not.

Well those manufacturers rely on those compnents. Maybe Texas Instruments and the likes can takr over, but even TI has a factory in china with 3 others worldwide, but there arent many that can. Noones going to invest in these types of factories either, not on a 3 year timeline... Everything is juat going to cost a ton until people realize.

Re: DHL suspends B2C shipments over 800 USD until further notice

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Post by evbogue »

trhway wrote: post #33
gbin wrote: post #11

I cannot imagine the scale of the economical damage of all this...

In the StarTrek style future you could get anything you need for free. We're just exiting the era where we were having anything we wanted for $9.99 or whatever low silly price the people in Guangdong and Dongguan were ready to accept. Is there a difference between the free and low silly price? Yes, the low silly price still makes you not-that-wasteful like the free could. Anyway, it is the end of an era. And it wasn'…

This comment is silly and not a great critique of Star Trek economics.

To hack Star Trek imagine the replicator system as a transport pad and then think about who controls the transporters. Next, imagine the phaser system as a transporter pad. Now you have a critique.

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Post by flyflewflaw »

anamax wrote: post #58

A couple of months ago, I saw something about Temu paying the tariffs for all of their shipments to the US in bulk but still shipping them individually. The basic idea was that they'd figure out the tariff on everything they shipped during a time period as if it was done in one shipment, pay that, and then do individual shipments. I suspect that something like this will happen. Of course, there will be auditing to en…

Australian businesses collect a value added tax (called GST) on almost all sales (some exempt goods). The same tax is payable on sales in Australia and imports.

For big intl retailers the effect is as you describe, they collect and remit the tax, then their shipments are considered tax paid when imported otherwise they would be held at customs.

It probably wouldn't be that hard to audit just with data from the major payment processors.

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