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Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by johntitorjr »

kretaceous wrote: post #43

I self-host a couple of things including an Emby server to watch movies. Self-hosting a music library seems interesting. But I discover and listen to music far more than I watch movies. This article tells me how good Jellyfin is, but the music collection process is not here. Do you download them manually? Do you buy records? I grew up downloading music into my PC and then transferring them to my SD card which I used…

I think the unstated assumption is that the reader has an existing music library. Where that library came from is an excercise left to the reader. I use bittorrent, which I admit is a little morally smelly, but I justify it by buying vinyl albums of any artists I listen a lot to. It'd take a lot of Spotify listens to match the money to the artist of buying a single album from the band website. Lots of vinyl comes with digital downloads too. When I'm at home, physical media is fucking rad. I mean, I can unplug the turntable, spin it by hand, and hear the music directly from the needle. No software, no gadgets. It's so primal, like the artist is whispering to me. I hadn't realized how much I lost switching to Pandora until I switched back to physical media.

Given an existing collection - Is there an easy way to auto sort & tag everything? e.g. Merge the artists 'Guns N Roses' and 'Guns and Roses' into the most correct one.

I can't justify the time to do it manually and feel like if I just wait long enough a turn-key AI solution will pop up.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by Inviz »

chillfox wrote: post #58

Self-hosting stuff is awesome if you have the skills. I have been on a mission for the last 2 years to replace as many subscriptions as possible with self-hosted solutions. The subscriptions really had gotten out of hand, it had gotten to about $200 (AUD) a month. Quick napkin math is that I have cancelled about ~$150 a month worth of subscriptions so far. The $500 office desktop I got for a home server is struggling…

What do we do about Lightroom? Capture one? How about sharing galleries?

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by bhaney »

afavour wrote: post #59
bhaney wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wish there was an easy way for this - plug and play kinda I can click a button in Lidarr to auth with Spotify and automatically search usenet for every album of every artist I follow on spotify, download them all, and make them available in Jellyfin. It'll even monitor the spotify account and import new additions. Getting the whole stack set up is pretty much the exact opposite of plug and play, but once you have…

I'm going to assume OP isn't interested in piracy given they were talking about buying...

They said "finding from Linux ISO sites is a nightmare" and I took that to be a euphemism for piracy sites. They just find navigating and using those sites to be annoying, which is totally fair if you don't have software doing it for you.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by unsnap_biceps »

PaulHoule wrote: post #56

I struggled with Jellyfin for years, never got it to work right, particularly the XBOX clients. Switched to Plex for the win. I like the recommender that comes with Plex Pass and listen to music off my home server on my phone in the car and when walking in the woods.

I used Plex for years but ditched it when they got caught sending all your watch activity to their company for whatever. My privacy is worth the pain. I'm running Jellyfin, but it's not a smooth system at all.

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Post by makeitdouble »

HumblyTossed wrote: post #38

I self host Navidrome. Works pretty well.

Do you use a local client that accepts caching/offline playback of the content ?

I'm looking through the android clients and none seem to fully embrace keeping the most played tracks on device ("offline mode"). Tempo[0] has in on the wip list, while StreamMusic straight removed in it the latest update[1], so as of now it looks like a pretty tough feature to get.

Listening to music in remote places is nice, and that was the main reason for paying for Spotify for me.

[0] https://github.com/CappielloAntonio/tempo#readme [1] https://music.aqzscn.cn/docs/versions/latest/

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by sidrag22 »

hyperbovine wrote: post #44
tomrod wrote: post #26

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"You'll own nothing and you'll be happy": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27ll_own_nothing_and_be_ha...

For $15 a month I get access to (as far as my tastes are concerned) all the music ever recorded, instantly accessible from anywhere in the world on any device I own. I recall a commercial from the 90s that sort of poked fun at this exact idea, as being laughably farfetched and "sci-fi". You're damn right I'm happy.

i was cool with it for a long time, id buy annual memberships every year(non renewing). price hikes came, that annual is a lot more daunting as a one time purchase (especially at that particular moment in time for me). i was spending a lot of time in the car attempting to use the app. it quite literally felt like a short trip was 1 song sandwiched between equal parts ads. so a trip to the grocery was kinda like 2 mins ads, song(dont you dare try to skip that song or youll get an ad, or be out of next songs as its shuffle only), maybe another song, then 2 more minutes of ads.

ive now been in a place where that membership isnt that daunting. but im good, im not gonna have my music library held prisoner from me unless i cough up a monthly fee. its quite literally unusable if you arent paying. it also seems like they intentionally make their browser based version kinda trash... to make using it to block ads a less viable option(its been a while, not sure how true this currently is).

the jellyfin option is actually what ive settled on as well, ive been a bit lazy about setting up more functionality than just for my LAN, but i will get around to it. for now i just kinda plop junk on my phone and play it through vlc, which is certainly a lazy solution but its still feels freeing.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by bob1029 »

kaynyn1 wrote: post #60
bob1029 wrote: post #36

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I've been working on a custom media server that does streaming, block-based storage on top of S3, with the local disk being used as a cache. I implemented an override of Stream in C# that can be passed directly to an HttpContext file response. This gives me range-based response support on top of cached S3 media blocks for free. The front-end uses ffmpeg to do a quick transcode on uploads to guarantee fast start of mp…

What are egress expenses though. I really want to go this way, but worried about the costs during egress data transfer

Egress isn't that bad. It would be like paying for 1~2 streaming subscriptions if you watched several gigabytes of fresh content per day every day (i.e., zero cache hits).

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Post by sathyabhat »

Inviz wrote: post #63
chillfox wrote: post #58

Self-hosting stuff is awesome if you have the skills. I have been on a mission for the last 2 years to replace as many subscriptions as possible with self-hosted solutions. The subscriptions really had gotten out of hand, it had gotten to about $200 (AUD) a month. Quick napkin math is that I have cancelled about ~$150 a month worth of subscriptions so far. The $500 office desktop I got for a home server is struggling…

What do we do about Lightroom? Capture one? How about sharing galleries?

Immich is pretty good for sharing photos. https://immich.app/
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