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Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Post by wewewedxfgdf »

1: Press release about amazing AI development.

2: "Try it now!" the release always says.

3: I go try it.

4: Doesn't work. In this case, I give it a prompt to make a video and literally nothing happens, it goes back to the prompt. In the case of the breathtakingly astonishing Gemini 2.5 Coding - attach to source code file to the prompt "file type not supported".

That's the pattern - I've come to expect it and was not disappointed with Google Gemini 2.5 coding nor with this video thing they are promoting here.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

#62

Post by strangattractor »

mritun wrote: post #32
strangattractor wrote: post #28

Google is the new Microsoft in the sense that they can Embrace, extend, and extinguish their competition. No matter what xAI or OpenAI or "anything"AI tries to build Google will eventually copy and destroy them at scale. AI (or A1 as our Secretary of Education calls it) is interesting because it is more difficult to protect the IP other than as trade secrets.

> Google will eventually copy… Weird take given Google basically invented and released through well written papers and open-source software the modern deep learning stack which all others build on. Google was being disses because they failed to make any product and were increasingly looking like Kodak/Xerox one trick pony. It seems they have woken up from whatever slumber they were in

Like MS, Google is ubiquitous - search is much like Office and DOS before that. Anything OpenAPI or the other AI competitors create would normally be protected by patents for instance. Not so with an AI models. Google has the clout/know how to responded with similar technology - adding it to their ubiquitous search. People are both lazy and cheap. They will always go with cheaper and good enough.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Post by vunderba »

hu3 wrote: post #58

is there a tool to generate AI videos that doesn't change the original picture so much? Whisk redraws the entire thing and it barely resembles source picture.

Wan 2.1 can do a decent job with i2v.

https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/wan

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

#64

Post by siva7 »

wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #61

1: Press release about amazing AI development. 2: "Try it now!" the release always says. 3: I go try it. 4: Doesn't work. In this case, I give it a prompt to make a video and literally nothing happens, it goes back to the prompt. In the case of the breathtakingly astonishing Gemini 2.5 Coding - attach to source code file to the prompt "file type not supported". That's the pattern - I've come to expect it and was not…

you're using it wrong. change file ending to .txt instead

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

#65

Post by [deleted] »

siva7 wrote: post #64
wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #61

1: Press release about amazing AI development. 2: "Try it now!" the release always says. 3: I go try it. 4: Doesn't work. In this case, I give it a prompt to make a video and literally nothing happens, it goes back to the prompt. In the case of the breathtakingly astonishing Gemini 2.5 Coding - attach to source code file to the prompt "file type not supported". That's the pattern - I've come to expect it and was not…

you're using it wrong. change file ending to .txt instead

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Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

#66

Post by ninininino »

As usual with Gen AI the curated demo itself displays misunderstanding and failure to meet the prompt. In the "Glacial Cavern" demo, the "candy figures" are not within the ice walls but are in the foreground/center of the scene.

These things are great (I am not being sarcastic, I mean it when I say great) if and only if you don't actually care about all of your requirements being met, but if exactness matters they are mind-bogglingly frustrating because you'll get so close to what you want but some important detail is wrong.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Post by switchbak »

gh0stcat wrote: post #33
jddj wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came to the same sort of conclusion when watching Kitsune, which I think was one person and VEO https://vimeo.com/1047370252 Granted, 5 minutes isn't 1h30 but it's not a million miles away either.

This actually so amateurish and cliche it's painful. The fact people like this shows that art never had a chance when the masses have no taste. This makes me depressed for artists and the future.

Well sure, but we're in the early stages here smashing bones together. When a few million bored teenagers bang at this, I bet you'll see perspectives you've never thought of. It'd be like having someone in the 1920's listen to Nirvana - just a completely different experience.

Given the dreck coming out of Hollywood, I'm open to that, even if other folks have to wade through a million shitty videos for me to get it.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

#68

Post by switchbak »

delichon wrote: post #18
colesantiago wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My prediction is on track to this and this was made only 4 months ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42368951

There may be a solo (not Han) movie good enough to compete in five years, but I doubt that Academy voters will be that welcoming of the tech that can obliterate most of their jobs by then.

If AI can fix the terrible ending that was Game of Thrones, then perhaps it won't have been a complete waste after all.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Post by CSMastermind »

hu3 wrote: post #58

is there a tool to generate AI videos that doesn't change the original picture so much? Whisk redraws the entire thing and it barely resembles source picture.

You want Kling: https://klingai.com/global/

Everything else performs terribly at that task, though a bunch including Sora technically have that functionality.

Google's tool forcing you to redraw the image is silly.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Post by bornfreddy »

siva7 wrote: post #64
wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #61

1: Press release about amazing AI development. 2: "Try it now!" the release always says. 3: I go try it. 4: Doesn't work. In this case, I give it a prompt to make a video and literally nothing happens, it goes back to the prompt. In the case of the breathtakingly astonishing Gemini 2.5 Coding - attach to source code file to the prompt "file type not supported". That's the pattern - I've come to expect it and was not…

you're using it wrong. change file ending to .txt instead

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or a helpful advice?
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