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Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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Also the fact that all your team knows how to use is Github pull requests, and they will whine like crazy if you move to a different model.

Good news! Codeberg has pull requests!

Codeberg is only for Foss projects thou

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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post #54

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at this point it feels like github is becoming a social network for developers

Give it a few more years and we'll have LinkedIn-like developer feeds.

Why do you give away nightmarish ideas for free ?

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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Good article.

It highlights an impact of concentrated wealth on technological development in general, the third option: If a competing technology can't just be ignored, or crushed, the final veto is to simply purchase it.

Which is what M$ has been doing for the last 1/2 decade due to the ever increasingly crappy nature of their OS product.

To slightly modify the article's conclusion: no one should host anything on github...

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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The reason I don't use Github is Microsoft's hatred stance on open source. Anyone remember Microsoft calling Linux a "cancer"? Or Microsoft threatening open source developers for violating 200 patents? Or their official stand where they whould threaten and fear Linux devs? The secretly funded lawsuits against Linux? They even threatened lawsuits at companies for just using Linux. This company is rotten by the executi…

A lot of that was valid twenty years ago, and they certainly burned many bridges. Now there's VSCode, TypeScript, WSL, Dapr and .NET, all open source.

It's still valid today, they just wear different clothes.

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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> The nature of Git means Microsoft can't really do much harm. Famous last words

Especially when a huge portion of GitHub is not Git (wiki, discussions, issues, ci...)

The wikis are backed by git repos, i just moved my project wiki from GitHub to self-hosted, took just minutes

Issues and PR comments are another story though

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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Are we sure "MS was bad" is the right thing to say? Are they now behaving ethically and responsibly? If not, maybe it's very valid to be critical of our over reliance on such an actor, specially when alternatives are present.

They are a large and wealthy corporation, with a lot of proprietary software and service products. It may appear, at times, that their interests align with the interests of end users or open source contributors, but that is at best a fleeting illusion; the moment they figure out how to make more money by screwing people, that's exactly what they'll do. That's why Recall is coming back to Windows, despite a huge backl…

Oh wow never even knew that about the SSH feature, that's real scummy.

I was mad they forced me to upgrade to 11 for new WSL features, and now refuse to let you set up 11 without a Microsoft account.

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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post #36

I would suspect that if something is exclusively on GitHub, then it's not important. There are many important Free Software projects such as GNU and Linux, and they've always stayed away from GitHub.

How do you define the bar for importance? leftpad was certainly not deemed important by any means.

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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post #52
post #36

I would suspect that if something is exclusively on GitHub, then it's not important. There are many important Free Software projects such as GNU and Linux, and they've always stayed away from GitHub.

I always get sad when I read articles like "new open source trend!" that are done by scanning github. All the important stuff is not on github. The open github is mostly used by unfinished test projects.

Probably not fully wrong but Kubernetes and Node are both on GitHub.
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