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Re: Choviva: Chocolate replacement with less CO2 emissions

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Post by colechristensen »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #58
colechristensen wrote: post #48

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Impossible burgers smell strongly of soybean meal to me. As in I'm mildly repulsed if the person sitting across from me is eating one.

Are you sure that was an Impossible burger and not a Beyond burger? I've tried both and the aroma of Beyond burgers (which I think taste fine but the aroma of uncooked patties reminds me of cat food) was much more noticeable to me.

It's whatever the busy burger place at the ferry building was selling about 6 years ago. I am not sure, but I do think it was Impossible.

Re: Choviva: Chocolate replacement with less CO2 emissions

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Post by bryanlarsen »

gedy wrote: post #39
bryanlarsen wrote: post #35

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The world invested $2.1 trillion in the clean energy transition in 2024. We are doing the big things. https://about.bnef.com/blog/global-investment-in-the-energy-...

Cool but I'd wish we measure the output vs how much we spend, as it's frequently dumped into a black hole with little to show for it.

Very little of the $2T is dumped into a black hole. 1/3 were electric vehicles, 1/3 was wind, solar & batteries, 1/6 was electrical infrastructure.

Re: Choviva: Chocolate replacement with less CO2 emissions

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Post by prohobo »

gs17 wrote: post #50
IAmBroom wrote: post #2

This is classic deck-chair reorg, instead of actually helping the environment. China outputs gigatons of coal smoke. The US ships goods by individual trucks that could travel by train for a fraction of the fuel usage. We dispose of millions of plastic, floating pieces of trash in our oceans. But if we slightly decrease the carbon footprint of a Hershey's bar, we'll be OK. I use a stainless steel straw, so I'm doing m…

> But if we slightly decrease the carbon footprint of a Hershey's bar, we'll be OK. They're not saying it alone will fix it. They also say they: >created the ChoViva website with an environmentally conscious mindset. This means we use fonts, colours, images and animations in a purposeful way, do without flashy videos and welcome you in the low-energy dark mode by default. And I doubt you think they're claiming less J…

So what is their claim then? They think that if you optimize your consumption based on "environmentally friendly" supply chains and aesthetics, even if those optimizations are actually unhealthy (ie. replacing cocoa with sunflower seeds) and/or useless, we'll solve climate change?

This is all about aesthetics for addicted consumers. What would actually be much better, all around, is if our culture started promoting buying high quality cocoa powder and making our own cookies instead of buying highly processed garbage that pretends to be good for the environment.

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Post by bayindirh »

gedy wrote: post #39
bryanlarsen wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world invested $2.1 trillion in the clean energy transition in 2024. We are doing the big things. https://about.bnef.com/blog/global-investment-in-the-energy-...

Cool but I'd wish we measure the output vs how much we spend, as it's frequently dumped into a black hole with little to show for it.

See this: https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/72h/hourly

Re: Choviva: Chocolate replacement with less CO2 emissions

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Post by k__ »

echoangle wrote: post #42
krunck wrote: post #31

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Interesting. Source?

The only relevant thing I could find was the „Schlager Süßtafel“ ( https://www.t-online.de/leben/essen-und-trinken/id_100228748... ) which seems to have been made with milk from cows fed with fishmeal, which made it taste weird.

Ah, yes.

People in the time said it was in the food, but it was "just" used to feed the animals that produced the food.

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Post by gs17 »

prohobo wrote: post #63
gs17 wrote: post #50

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> But if we slightly decrease the carbon footprint of a Hershey's bar, we'll be OK. They're not saying it alone will fix it. They also say they: >created the ChoViva website with an environmentally conscious mindset. This means we use fonts, colours, images and animations in a purposeful way, do without flashy videos and welcome you in the low-energy dark mode by default. And I doubt you think they're claiming less J…

So what is their claim then? They think that if you optimize your consumption based on "environmentally friendly" supply chains and aesthetics, even if those optimizations are actually unhealthy (ie. replacing cocoa with sunflower seeds ) and/or useless, we'll solve climate change? This is all about aesthetics for addicted consumers. What would actually be much better, all around, is if our culture started promoting…

> we'll solve climate change

Things can help solve a problem without being sufficient to solve it on their own. Do you refuse to use LED lights because they won't bring your power bill down to zero?

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