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Shared DNA in Music

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Re: Shared DNA in Music

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I once had the realization that a riff from Metallica's "The Four Horseman" was the same as that from Tom Petty's "Last Dance With Mary Jane" except, as I learned several years after the realization, it is actually the riff from "Sweet Home Alabama" which was introduced in a session as a joke by the guitarist to make fun of the drummer for having narrow musical knowledge. He was correct in his assumption that the dru…

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Re: Shared DNA in Music

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I once had the realization that a riff from Metallica's "The Four Horseman" was the same as that from Tom Petty's "Last Dance With Mary Jane" except, as I learned several years after the realization, it is actually the riff from "Sweet Home Alabama" which was introduced in a session as a joke by the guitarist to make fun of the drummer for having narrow musical knowledge. He was correct in his assumption that the dru…

I've showed a few people this and I'm surprised that so many people don't notice that it's sweet home alabama. I am from Georgia though and that song used to be an anthem. lol

Re: Shared DNA in Music

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post #35

What this mostly seems to demonstrate is that hip-pop is endlessly derivative. That might be a consequence of their data source: > To build this project, we used the dataset of hundreds of thousands of songs on Genius.com accessible through their API, over 200,000 of which were “connected” in some way by sample, interpolation, cover, or remix. Genres where sampling is openly and explicitly acknowledged are going to b…

I wonder, do you find Outkast's ATLiens album to be derivative? Especially "Elevators" and "Wheels of Steel". I certainly don't know enough music to answer that question definitively, if anyone does. Even though some of the lyrics have certainly not aged well, I do like its minimal aesthetic, and I was in Decatur, GA at the time, and it sure beat the crap Diddy and Mase were putting out at the time. Side note: WCLK C…

> Side note: WCLK Clark Atlanta University radio station was the absolute best radio station I've ever heard, where I found my favorite music of all-time: AfroCuban jazz. Their Hip Hop and Jazz programs were fantastic.

You’ll probably like WEFUNK, a hip hop/soul/funk weekly program that has been streaming since the late 90s, with ad-free streams and downloads, livestreams, RSS feeds etc while being listener-supported. They even have some basic apps for your devices.

https://www.wefunkradio.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WEFUNK_Radio

Re: Shared DNA in Music

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Made me think of that Silicon Valley episode with the Patent Troll.

I don't remember it exactly, but I think near the end Richard solves the situation by building a (fake?) music app that detected that the song that had made the Patent Troll rich was actually a ripoff from another song that Richard had acquired the rights to, so now Richard could technically sue the Patent Troll for all the money he had made...

If anybody has a link to that scene it would be great.

Re: Shared DNA in Music

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post #35

What this mostly seems to demonstrate is that hip-pop is endlessly derivative. That might be a consequence of their data source: > To build this project, we used the dataset of hundreds of thousands of songs on Genius.com accessible through their API, over 200,000 of which were “connected” in some way by sample, interpolation, cover, or remix. Genres where sampling is openly and explicitly acknowledged are going to b…

It's also not helped that some of the early hip hop musicians have themselves become highly sought after session musicians and producers, that have in turn seeded certain sounds all over the musical map; several members of the Sugarhill rap label (most notably Keith leblanc and Doug Wimbish) have literally over 1000 credits, including NIN's debut, Public Enemy, P-Funk, and Jeff Beck, so much like how Jeff Porcaro of Toto created a certain drum sound endemic to the 80s, such patterns are going to be exacerbated by use of much of the same limited musician/production pool.

Hip hop is no more derivative than the blues or funk, but they are definitely more sample-friendly.

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