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Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

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Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

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As my buddy from Oracle likes to say, "No one cares what we do as long as the flow of streak, coke, and strippers doesn't stop." He's a big Zed Shaw fan.

what's "streak"? do you mean steak?

You can search for that word definition.

Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

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> Seriously if I can't trust that I am going to actually be told and not lied too when there is a security incident at the bare minimum, why would I chose to work with a company? What is Oracle's end goal here? I think you're coming at this from the wrong point of view. Oracle couldn't care in the slightest about what regular people think of them. Remember, they are the company that sent lawyers after the employers o…

> everyone who worked there has a black mark on their CV I hope this is hyperbole. Rank and file employees are not responsible for corporate policy or direction, especially in places like Oracle.

It really isn't. Oracle has had a terrible reputation since forever, and every ex-Sun engineer I've met has taken great pains to explain they did not join Oracle voluntarily.

It's kind of like working for a tobacco company or arms manufacturer in payroll or something: you're not directly responsible for killing millions of people, but by choosing to work there you're still kind of condoning it.

Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

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I've started seeing ads for Oracle OCI in some podcasts I listen to so I think they are starting to see if they can attract customers outside of their "enterprise sales process". I'm not sure who those ads are supposed to appeal to besides the podcasts hosts raking in the ad dollars.

I haven’t seen the ads, but Oracle Cloud is definitely the public cloud provider with the most generous free tier. That’s not to say you should use and trust them, but I can see why many would.

You pay in other ways.

I understand if you have absolutely no money, but even then repeatedly trying to provision a server and getting a error- something like no capacity available - isn't a fun time.

Whatever, I'll pay 7$ a month to not deal with that.

Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

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As my buddy from Oracle likes to say, "No one cares what we do as long as the flow of streak, coke, and strippers doesn't stop." He's a big Zed Shaw fan.

Anytime Oracle is brought up is a great time to repost the famous Lawnmower quote: > "As you know people, as you learn about things, you realize that these generalizations we have are, virtually to a generalization, false. Well, except for this one, as it turns out. What you think of Oracle, is even truer than you think it is. There has been no entity in human history with less complexity or nuance to it than Oracle.…

To be fair to Oracle: the lawnmower doesn't hate people... yet. This millennium is still young. And we keep adding connectivity and llms into everything.

Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

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As my buddy from Oracle likes to say, "No one cares what we do as long as the flow of streak, coke, and strippers doesn't stop." He's a big Zed Shaw fan.

Anytime Oracle is brought up is a great time to repost the famous Lawnmower quote: > "As you know people, as you learn about things, you realize that these generalizations we have are, virtually to a generalization, false. Well, except for this one, as it turns out. What you think of Oracle, is even truer than you think it is. There has been no entity in human history with less complexity or nuance to it than Oracle.…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=33m

Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

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This is honestly wild. Whether we like it or not security incidents have become such common place in the last several years that if they just admitted to it this entire story would have likely been shrugged off and mostly forgotten about in a couple days but instead it is turning into an entire thing that just seems to be getting deeper and deeper. (Not downplaying the security incident, but that is the unfortunate r…

That's why in Europe there are strict laws regarding lax security of customer data and companies can be fined with a percentage of their turnover - which in the case of Oracle could hurt a bit.

Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

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If you are already a customer of Oracle, I can't imagine this matters to you. You did not choose Oracle because it was a good product and they are a good company. You are a customer of Oracle because there was a backroom executive deal with the Devil. No one is surprised or outraged or even has any choices.

As my buddy from Oracle likes to say, "No one cares what we do as long as the flow of streak, coke, and strippers doesn't stop." He's a big Zed Shaw fan.

I’m sorry but I don’t get this Zed Shaw reference, what did I miss?

Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

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> Seriously if I can't trust that I am going to actually be told and not lied too when there is a security incident at the bare minimum, why would I chose to work with a company? What is Oracle's end goal here? I think you're coming at this from the wrong point of view. Oracle couldn't care in the slightest about what regular people think of them. Remember, they are the company that sent lawyers after the employers o…

My wife is a hospital pharmacist. Cerner is a poular EMR system, is ~#2 in the market (behind Epic). These systems are ridiculously difficult to change between (everyone from your front-check-in desk to every surgeon who has privileges needs to be trained on how the new system works in addition to the technical problems with ETL'ing all your data over, and each hospital has an enormous amount of customization done to…

True, but with one exception that I saw (Memorial Sloan Kettering), every EMR that isn’t Epic is a steaming pile. And I think MSK is switching.
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