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Re: Wikipedia Redefined

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You'd probably want any redesign of Wikipedia to start with the understanding that the front page of the English Wikipedia isn't WWW.WIKIPEDIA.ORG, it's EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG, and that that page is dominated by content --- most notably the WP Featured Articles, which are a core part of the Wikipedia community. Draw the pretty colored lines after you grok the concept. It goes downhill for me as they try to get more technic…

Anecdotally, the overwhelming majority of people who I've observed using Wikipedia go to www.wikipedia.com and then select "English".

Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-anecdot...

Re: Wikipedia Redefined

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You'd probably want any redesign of Wikipedia to start with the understanding that the front page of the English Wikipedia isn't WWW.WIKIPEDIA.ORG, it's EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG, and that that page is dominated by content --- most notably the WP Featured Articles, which are a core part of the Wikipedia community. Draw the pretty colored lines after you grok the concept. It goes downhill for me as they try to get more technic…

Can you provide a link to the Brand New Blog or some additional search terms? I'm interested, but "brand new blog" and "brand new blog logo" Google searches don't seem to bring up anything relevant.

Re: Wikipedia Redefined

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. But I like the highlighting, saving of snippets and history-tracking ideas. I would find that very useful for myself, beyond the "oh sweet I didn't know it could do that" but for real "now where did I once read that?" purposes.

These ideas would probably be better achieved using a browser add-on of some kind.

Not if you want it to be popular (read: IE users, high school and college students, other "normal" people).

(Ok, yes, a browser add-on would be better for someone like me. But I don't think my need is very unique.)

Re: Wikipedia Redefined

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Proposed Wikipedia logo: http://www.wikipediaredefined.com/img/4.png Actual WordPress logo: http://s.wordpress.org/about/images/logos/wordpress-logo-sta... (It's not just that both are W's -- they also chose a typeface with a similar distinctive swoosh.)

>the letter W, which is/could be the most famous W in the whole web. W is enough for Wikipedia to be recognized.

I read this and thought the same thing, "What about Wordpress?"

Re: Wikipedia Redefined

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Does anyone else find the font used on that page really distracting? What's with the I looking like a J?

Even better, the page is entirely unreadable until the font loads - it's been spinning for a minute, and what I assume is the text is pure white.

Re: Wikipedia Redefined

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Where is the Wikimedia theme/skin described in this showcase?

This. Show me the code, or at least a github with the beginnings of making these ideas a reality, or you're wasting my time with mental masturbation. Until you can actually test these dramatic changes with real users and show that these changes can be achieved in a usable way, it's the height of designer hubris to trot this out as a major improvement to one of the world's most popular sites. Say whatever you will of WikiPedia, the reality is that 99.9% of designers will never build anything as useful to so many people in their entire career. That is a design success.

So, while these "redesign famous site" projects are fun, I guess, and probably great practice and thinking exercises for the designers, I don't think the folks behind a site like Wikipedia ought to drop everything and follow their advice. Wikipedia has billions of pages to serve, and millions of people to educate.

Re: Wikipedia Redefined

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I work at Wikia, which means I work with MediaWiki every day. I was kind of offended by how naive New is New is being. I don't think they have any grasp on the sort of massive scope changes like this would require. Wikipedia is not MediaWiki's only consumer. A lot of communities that use MediaWiki are extremely conservative about the UI, so some of the conservatism is by design. The WikiMedia Foundation is working on…

I highly highly doubt that this is an actual appeal by them to change the MediaWiki interface. I see this purely as a publicity stunt / marketing move, intended to get their brand and abilities out there in front of people. And to be frank, I think they're being quite successful at that. UX/practicality aside, most of the components do look good. (though good parts of it remind me of Google, Quora, and other prominent sites)

(Seeing this site reminded me of the guy who did the Windows redesign work a few months ago, which means that the windows redesign guy did a good job marketing/branding himself too!)

Re: Wikipedia Redefined

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Its awful. It reminds me of the Gmail redesign. I hate these simplified, 2d websites. Why do you have to ruin every website?

I like the new GMail, and the new post-4.0 Android 2D UIs. I don't like most of these suggested changes for WikiPedia, however.

Re: Wikipedia Redefined

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I work at Wikia, which means I work with MediaWiki every day. I was kind of offended by how naive New is New is being. I don't think they have any grasp on the sort of massive scope changes like this would require. Wikipedia is not MediaWiki's only consumer. A lot of communities that use MediaWiki are extremely conservative about the UI, so some of the conservatism is by design. The WikiMedia Foundation is working on…

Heh, that's very funny coming from a Wikia employee. "Conservative" is the last word I'd ever use when describing Wikia's changes to the MediaWiki UI. You guys have no problem forking MediaWiki and making drastic changes to the codebase (http://svn.wikia-code.com/wikia/trunk/), so why can't the MediaWiki project make drastic changes of their own?
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