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Re: 4o Image Generation

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Post by afro88 »

drew-y wrote: post #58
afro88 wrote: post #40

Edit: Please ignore. They hadn't rolled the new model out to my account yet. The announcement blog post is a bit misleading saying you can try it today. -- Comparison with Leonardo.Ai. ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/share/67e2fb21-a06c-8008-b297-07681dddee... ChatGPT again (direct one shot): https://chatgpt.com/share/67e2fc44-ecc8-8008-a40f-e1368d306e... ChatGPT again (using word "photorealistic instead of "photo"): ht…

The ChatGPT examples don't look like the new Image Gen model yet. The text on the dog collar isn't very good.

Apparently it rolls out today to Plus (which I have). I followed the "Try in ChatGPT" link at the top of the post

Re: 4o Image Generation

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Post by Maxatar »

KrazyButTrue wrote: post #46

Is it live yet? Have been trying it out and am still getting poor results on text generation.

I don't think it's available to everyone yet on 4o. Just like you I am getting the same "cartoony" styling and poor text generation.

Might take a day or two before it's available in general.

Re: 4o Image Generation

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Post by argsnd »

cubefox wrote: post #49
minimaxir wrote: post #2

OpenAI's livestream of GPT-4o Image Generation shows that it is slowwwwwwwwww (maybe 30 seconds per image, which Sam Altman had to spin "it's slow but the generated images are worth it"). Instead of using a diffusion approach, it appears to be generating the image tokens and decoding them akin to the original DALL-E ( https://openai.com/index/dall-e/ ), which allows for streaming partial generations from top to botto…

LLMs are autoregressive, so they can't be (multi-modality) integrated with diffusion image models, only with autoregressive image models (which generate an image via image tokens). Historically those had lower image fidelity than diffusion models. OpenAI now seems to have solved this problem somehow. More than that, they appear far ahead of any available diffusion model, including Midjourney and Imagen 3. Gemini "int…

Is this the same for their gemini-2.0-flash-exp-image-generation model?

Re: 4o Image Generation

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Post by famouswaffles »

afro88 wrote: post #61
drew-y wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ChatGPT examples don't look like the new Image Gen model yet. The text on the dog collar isn't very good.

Apparently it rolls out today to Plus (which I have). I followed the "Try in ChatGPT" link at the top of the post

It's rolling out to everyone starting today but i'm not sure if everyone has it yet. Does it generate top down for you (picture goes from mostly blurry to clear starting from the top) like in their presentation ?

Re: 4o Image Generation

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Post by hombre_fatal »

kh_hk wrote: post #57

> Introducing 4o Image Generation: [...] our most advanced image generator yet Then google: > Gemini 2.5: Our most intelligent AI model > Introducing Gemini 2.0 | Our most capable AI model yet I could go on forever. I hope this trend dies and apple starts using something effective so all the other companies can start copying a new lexicon.

Maybe it’s not useless. 1) it’s only comparing it to their own products and 2) it’s useful to know that the product is the current best in their offering as opposed to a new product that might offer new functionality but isn’t actually their most advanced.

Which is especially relevant when it's not obvious which product is the latest and best just looking at the names. Lots of tech naming fails this test from Xbox (Series X vs S) to OpenAI model names (4o vs o1-pro).

Here they claim 4o is their most capable image generator which is useful info. Especially when multiple models in their dropdown list will generate images for you.

Re: 4o Image Generation

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Post by virtualcharles »

KrazyButTrue wrote: post #46

Is it live yet? Have been trying it out and am still getting poor results on text generation.

So far it seems to be the same for me.

It seems like an odd way to name/announce it, there's nothing obvious to distinguish it from what was already there (i.e. 4o making images) so I have no idea if there is a UI change to look for, or just keep trying stuff until it seems better?

Re: 4o Image Generation

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Post by yed »

afro88 wrote: post #61
drew-y wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ChatGPT examples don't look like the new Image Gen model yet. The text on the dog collar isn't very good.

Apparently it rolls out today to Plus (which I have). I followed the "Try in ChatGPT" link at the top of the post

On mine I tried it "natively" and in DALL-E mode and the results were basically identical, I think they haven't actually rolled it out to everyone yet.

Re: 4o Image Generation

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Post by Kiro »

kh_hk wrote: post #57

> Introducing 4o Image Generation: [...] our most advanced image generator yet Then google: > Gemini 2.5: Our most intelligent AI model > Introducing Gemini 2.0 | Our most capable AI model yet I could go on forever. I hope this trend dies and apple starts using something effective so all the other companies can start copying a new lexicon.

What's the problem?
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