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Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by seabrookmx »

jjice wrote: post #8

I've been feeling a pull towards Fedora lately away from Ubuntu, especially because there's apparently better hardware support for Framework laptops. Does anyone have experience for migrating from Ubuntu to Fedora? Package reinstallation isn't an issue for me, but wondering if anyone has some general tips for migrating everything between distributions, especially with different parent distros.

I run Ubuntu everywhere except my Framework, because at the time Fedora was shipping a newer kernel that had better 12th Gen Intel support.

I formatted ext4 with LUKS because it's what I'm used to, but honestly Fedora has been great. Add flathub, a few gnome extensions (same ones I'd use in Ubuntu) and it's basically the same experience.

Without knowing what you're migrating I can't really speak to that. I use a pretty light toolset and heavily lean on remote dev (VS Code SSH extension).

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by phkahler »

skyyler wrote: post #11

Excited that the partitioning portion of the installer is reworked - that has been a pain point for recommending Fedora to newbies. Really excited that the KDE version is ascended from spin to Edition! That's what I use for my desktop at home.

>> that has been a pain point for recommending Fedora to newbies.

I've been running Fedora for 20 years and I still can't navigate that part of the install process. The combination of partitions and LLVM - which I don't need - and that part of the install setup... ooof. And try to reuse anything already on disk? I never can get it.

Thank God upgrades are seamless now so I don't have to use the installer.

BTW it's just the disk layout part I have a problem with. Everything else is great.

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by virtualwhys »

dpool wrote: post #57
virtualwhys wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was just in an Apple Store yesterday mulling over whether or not to switch back to macOS after 15 years on Linux PCs. Both MacBook Pros and Airs are nice machines, but macOS, for me, it's a huge step back. Unfortunately the Asahi project is underfunded (likely one of the reasons the project founder/lead jumped ship recently), and as a result M4 support is likely a year+ away. Oh wells, let's see what Dell and Lenovo…

Might be worth taking a look at https://frame.work/ .

Until now I'd only heard of Framework laptops, but am blown away by the build-your-own process -- incredible, spec the machine just as you want it.

Going to dive into the details now, thanks...

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by nwah1 »

bsimpson wrote: post #43
nwah1 wrote: post #6

Excited about the new COSMIC spin, and remain excited about the progression of the existing Atomic desktop spins.

Nice that people have options. Setting up a desktop on your own isn't always easy. I tried COSMIC and was disappointed that it didn't work well on a touchscreen (a common refrain for Linux environments, and a motivator for me trying it out). Then again, it's still an alpha. Would be nice to see improvements there, but since it's from a laptop vendor, I don't have high expectations.

I think it looks good, and seems fairly modern. The settings app would probably work well on touchscreen, but I'm sure many apps wouldn't.

Definitely still in alpha.

I like the idea that it will be a bit more secure, automatically. Security needs to be taken much more seriously. Fedora Atomic means most userspace apps will be sandboxed via Flatpak, and the base system itself will be immutable.

Flatpak needs a lot more love, though. Portals aren't as good as Android or iOS or Windows capability-based permissions yet. Many important apps just request full permissions, needlessly.

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by mwinatschek »

tapoxi wrote: post #58
dpool wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might be worth taking a look at https://frame.work/ .

I love my Framework 14. I'm absolutely sticking with this company for all future PCs.

I’d love to try out their products, but as an European it could become a problem in the near future that they’re an US-based company.

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by m4rtink »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #12
staplung wrote: post #7

Gah! Why did they name their installer Anaconda? That name is already totally overloaded by the python Anaconda, which I notice now bills itself as "The Operating System for AI". That's like naming your programming language "JIT", or "Compiler" or..."Hack". UPDATE: as others have pointed out, I've got it backwards. RedHat had the name first. So, criticism retracted and redirected at the other Anaconda.

Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(installer) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(Python_distribution) , the installer dates to 1999 and the python distro dates to 2012. So yes, the name is overloaded, but the installer came first, and came first by a lot.

And 1999 is just how far the Git history (imported from CVS, the project kinda skipped subversion directly to Git) goes. - The first commit is from April 24 1999 and says: "the very start of a gui frontend for anaconda":

https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/commit/785d44bf73ccc...

This kinda implies that Anaconda was in existence for some time back then & what was tracked in the newflangled change tracking software was the fancy new graphical UI. :)

I have not really looked further if perhaps the backend was imported later on or just grew from the GUI - but the same codebase, with continous 27 years of history is what installs the Fedora 42 Beta today. :-)

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by m4rtink »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #12
staplung wrote: post #7

Gah! Why did they name their installer Anaconda? That name is already totally overloaded by the python Anaconda, which I notice now bills itself as "The Operating System for AI". That's like naming your programming language "JIT", or "Compiler" or..."Hack". UPDATE: as others have pointed out, I've got it backwards. RedHat had the name first. So, criticism retracted and redirected at the other Anaconda.

Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(installer) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(Python_distribution) , the installer dates to 1999 and the python distro dates to 2012. So yes, the name is overloaded, but the installer came first, and came first by a lot.

OK, managed to dig up even more Anaconda history, including origins of the name: https://anaconda-installer.readthedocs.io/en/latest/intro.ht...

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by zdragnar »

virtualwhys wrote: post #55
captn3m0 wrote: post #36

Asahi also has the 42 Beta available today: https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-asahi-remix-42-... Notably with FEX support for running x86 binaries. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FEX

Was just in an Apple Store yesterday mulling over whether or not to switch back to macOS after 15 years on Linux PCs. Both MacBook Pros and Airs are nice machines, but macOS, for me, it's a huge step back. Unfortunately the Asahi project is underfunded (likely one of the reasons the project founder/lead jumped ship recently), and as a result M4 support is likely a year+ away. Oh wells, let's see what Dell and Lenovo…

If you don't need a discrete graphics card and want maximum battery life, LG gram laptops are totally worth a look. I could easily write code and develop all day without plugging in at all.

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by chuckadams »

burkaman wrote: post #59
scheme271 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're referring to the recruitment asking questions about your high school performance and how you ranked locally and regionally in high school in various subjects, that's still a thing. Even for positions where that shouldn't matter.

There are no positions where it should matter. Even if there were a genuine reason to care about high school grades (there isn't), asking about relative ranking doesn't make any sense unless you have detailed knowledge of the specific school they went to. It's like asking a candidate to rank their programming ability compared to their current colleagues. What possible information could you derive from this? Example a…

> "Make reference to provincial, state or nation-wide scoring systems, rankings" - do these exist in the US?

They name a couple, SAT and ACT are still the main ones. Some states like New York have the Regents Exam which would be a statewide score. Demanding those scores is still just about the dumbest fucking thing I've seen a tech company do.

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by threePointFive »

I've been super happy with Fedora since switching to it on desktop. Unfortunately I'm still biased to Debian for the server usecase. Fedora moves too quickly but RHEL (and derivatives) not supporting major version upgrades is pretty much a deal breaker. Would love a RedHat-themed distro with a ~5year support cycle with the option to do major version upgrades.
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