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Re: Occupry your next lease to negotiate a better deal

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This is just adorable. To think that prospective renters have any negotiating power at all when the landlord typically (in my area anyway) receives triple digit numbers of applications.

Sounds more like losing out on the place you wanted because they rented it to someone that didn't haggle them.

Re: Occupry your next lease to negotiate a better deal

#64

No information about who owns this company. Given that it is very likely run by, in effect, landlords, I would be extremely suspicious of any advice it would give me as a tenant.

My real estate attorney thankfully lives under a bridge.

Re: Occupry your next lease to negotiate a better deal

#65

You'll get a lot of haters from the petite bourgeoisie tech landlord crowd here but this is a good idea. The more tools to help renters negotiate against the countless predatory landlords the better. Even better would be ways to report or put their malfeasance on public record. $9 is too expensive though.

it is a great idea - in theory. in practice I do not think this holds water. price is reasonable, I am landlord and I ran my current lease through it and also through few others and it is worth the price.

the main issue here is that this might only work in small markets and landlords like me, “just a guy.” for any property owned by large corporations (the percentage of these is increasing by the minute across the country) this is not useful. even for someone like me, last time my condo was on the market I have received 73 applications. someone tries to negotiate too much I’d just move on to the next if the negotiation is not reasonable

Re: Occupry your next lease to negotiate a better deal

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Huh???? do the tiny amount of paperwork and get the double, he won't learn until he feels the pain, you are not helping anyone with this choice

But I dont want double in 3 years. I want what I'm owed today.

In reality, something like this wouldn't take you 3 years. However, I can't fault you for not wanting to go into court pro se; it's not a good position to be in.

Interestingly, in some jurisdictions, provisions like these also carry attorney's fees to the prevailing tenant (i.e., asymmetric fee-shifting). So your landlord would be facing exposure to not only the underlying deposit and penalty and their own attorney's fees, but also possibly yours as well.

Re: Occupry your next lease to negotiate a better deal

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Are you kidding me? Most laws in liberal cities where this might be true are so tenant skewed that I downright don't want the risk of them doing the "squat and take 6+ months to be evicted but not before trashing the place" routine. No thank you. I'll be a landlord in some red state where I can rely on the power of rich capitalists to make sure that squatters spend their time in jail/prison instead of moving onto yet…

And this is why I don't touch the real estate market. Renting out housing is an inherently adversarial relationship; you either screw over your tenants or they screw over you. There's no fair exchange of value, there's just the scalper (e.g. Blackrock) who bought all the Pokemon cards^W^Whousing units and thus controls the supply, versus the tenant who wants to kick them in the shins. Personally, I don't think any of…

> Renting out housing is an inherently adversarial relationship; you either screw over your tenants or they screw over you.

Hasn’t been my experience on either end of the relationship.

Re: Occupry your next lease to negotiate a better deal

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And this is why I don't touch the real estate market. Renting out housing is an inherently adversarial relationship; you either screw over your tenants or they screw over you. There's no fair exchange of value, there's just the scalper (e.g. Blackrock) who bought all the Pokemon cards^W^Whousing units and thus controls the supply, versus the tenant who wants to kick them in the shins. Personally, I don't think any of…

> Renting out housing is an inherently adversarial relationship; you either screw over your tenants or they screw over you. Hasn’t been my experience on either end of the relationship.

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Re: Occupry your next lease to negotiate a better deal

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Negotiate? I’ve had two kinds of landlord, faceless corporations that regularly changed completely without anybody noticing where you could never talk to anyone who could actually negotiate, it was just whatever the computer spit out…

And “some guy” for whom the terms of the contract were mostly suggestions protected by the fact that tenants were too busy or poor to pursue legal recourse to the point of a solution.

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