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When newspapers are gone, what will you miss?

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Re: When newspapers are gone, what will you miss?

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What's left is local news, investigative journalism and intelligent coverage of national news. Perhaps 2% of the cost of a typical paper. I'd like to see a citation on that "2%". I don't believe it. What will we miss? Obviously, the basic reportage function of newspapers is what we'll miss--the boring research, interviewing, verifying, and so on. This is something that bloggers cannot reproduce without a news infrast…

This is actually in reply to the entire thread, but I didn't want it buried deep in nested comments.

Anyway, some figures, taken from the New York Times Annual Report and 10-K filing for 2007: http://www.nytco.com/investors/financials/annual_reports.htm...

From the business.pdf ( http://www.nytco.com/pdf/annual_2007/business.pdf ) the overall number of employees are 10,231 (4,408 work for the New York Times Media Group---the rest for other newspapers across the country). I estimated the number of reporters at 650 (From here ( http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/a... ) people we find that people listed in italics are reporters for the New York Times and not wanting to count across 26 other pages, just counted the number of reporters here, which was 25, and multiplied that by 26 to get my estimate. Crude, but should get us into the right ball park). For just the New York Times that's about 15% of all employees are reporters. So, let's run with that figure.

Out of 10,231 employees (at all the newspapers run by this company), that means they have around 1,500 reporters. From the financial statements ( http://www.nytco.com/pdf/annual_2007/fin-stmts.pdf ) we can see that their total expenses are $2,928,070,000. Assuming an average of $200k per reporter (given elsewhere in this thread) that works out to be 10% of expenses (whereas total eages are around 22%). Obviously, an average salary of $100k (remember, these are reporters for various papers around the country) this makes reporter expense 5% of all expenditures.

2% is low, but not by much I would think.

Re: When newspapers are gone, what will you miss?

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Frankly, you are also forgetting about the actual paper and cost of distributing it! I can believe your kind of calculations only in the context of a plausible accounting for all NYT expenses. With out factoring management, lawyers, plane tickets, real estate, etc., you will be way off. BTW 30 is absurdly low. The NYT has more than 30 offices ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_New_York_Times_empl...

According to Wikipedia the Times only has 350 writers total. It's clear that the majority of these are not doing investigative journalism, they are following the candidates around and rewriting press releases and such. I don't see how the number of actual investigative journalists could possibly be more than 100.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=NYT

Full Time Employees: 10,231

The question isn't "writers" but all of the employees involved in actual news creation. I have no idea what it might actually be, but a 1:10 ratio between "operatives" and "support staff" is my guess.

Re: When newspapers are gone, what will you miss?

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perfectly sized and flexible dog poop bags. relaxing morning read without getting sucked into internet. i still prefer the multiple perspectives and interaction i get from web 2.0 news, but i can imagine the nostalgia for simpler, more passive times :-) also, nytimes is really annoying to read online because i have to find login info.

If your using Firefox just use the bugmenot addon so you just have to right click on the username field.

Re: When newspapers are gone, what will you miss?

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How?

Watterson convered this in some of Calvin and Hobbes reprint books, but basically, a Sunday strip is at most 12 panels (call it 12 units) long. By modern convention, you have a 4-unit title panel, a 2 unit panel with a single throw away joke (or two 1 unit panels with a throw away joke), leaving 6 units left for the main Sunday joke. A newspaper then has several options for displaying the Sunday comic. They can run t…

Thanks. I remember.

But didn't he remove a special limitation of newspapers instead of exploiting a special feature?

Re: When newspapers are gone, what will you miss?

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What is "right", moving online, incorporating bloggers, interactive visuals? (legitimately curious)

Get small fast, hire hackers, leverage your position as a middle-man between a local audience and local businesses online, and capitalize on the decades of valuable content sitting in your archives. Forget breaking news in print, focus on investigative stories that no one else is going to do but some will pay for. Reduce your publishing cycle to one or two times a week. Adopt a "can't beat 'em, join 'em" mentality wh…

Right on! And it's a good thing I agree with you, seeing as how we work at the same place and sit about eight feet apart.
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