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US deploys AI to revoke visas of foreign nationals supporting Hamas: Report

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Re: US deploys AI to revoke visas of foreign nationals supporting Hamas: Report

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I love how they insist that china is the terrible country that does nothing else, while in the west we have freedom.

Well most of the west still does, its just that US is right now much bigger evil and bully to rest of the world than China is or ever was. Expect some realignment in next 4 years, maybe oil won't be yet traded in CNY but who knows.

Re: US deploys AI to revoke visas of foreign nationals supporting Hamas: Report

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post #53

Other issues aside, how does this get around the constitutional right to free speech? There must be some court ruling that lets speech affect the visa process.

If it's before they get here, there's no constitutional right at play. They're not a citizen nor in the US.

Once they're here, it would be weighted against their rights and the public interests. Previously I would assume it would get shot down by SCOTUS, but it seems like a coin flip these days imho.

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I love how they insist that china is the terrible country that does nothing else, while in the west we have freedom.

I'm disappointed, but not surprised. Seeing the American culture from Europe, it's obvious to me that "American freedom" is a meme. Not saying that Europe is perfect, but I'm happy to live on this side of the pond.

Re: US deploys AI to revoke visas of foreign nationals supporting Hamas: Report

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post #8

I love how they insist that china is the terrible country that does nothing else, while in the west we have freedom.

I'm disappointed, but not surprised. Seeing the American culture from Europe, it's obvious to me that "American freedom" is a meme. Not saying that Europe is perfect, but I'm happy to live on this side of the pond.

Come on. Sweden looking to ban signal, italy can block any website for copyright violation without any oversight from any judge. In fact in italy rt is banned because it is propaganda (completely true), but propaganda spreading things like fox news or liberoquotidiano do not get blocked.

We're not as bad as USA in a lot of respects, but we're getting there.

Re: US deploys AI to revoke visas of foreign nationals supporting Hamas: Report

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post #59
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> tomorrow you ban someone who criticized Israel and it's human rights violation. I think it's today, actually. They just want to censor any voice that would dare criticize Israel's abhorrent action. Pretending anyone who shows sympathy for the suffering of Palestinians supports Hamas is an old strategy. And to think they thought Trump was to be "the most peaceful president ever" or that he would "restore free speech…

Remember how he suddenly 'gave' Jerusalem to Israel, acknowledging it officially? That was a moment of desperation across whole sunni arab world, making it clear that palestinian cause is dead. Not saying whether I agree with any of this, just remembering few facts. He was too busy pleasing that murderous p.o.s. MBS and forcing them into 'peace agreement' with Israel at all costs, which as we all know lasted few mont…

Let's not forget this tasteless AI shit sandwich: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PslOp883rfI

Re: US deploys AI to revoke visas of foreign nationals supporting Hamas: Report

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post #36
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Of course saying "stop the genocide" will be interpreted as supporting hamas. Question is, are you ok with this interpretation or not?

It's quite interesting how when americans wake up comments like that go from upvoted to downvoted.

Re: US deploys AI to revoke visas of foreign nationals supporting Hamas: Report

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post #60

This is one of the many initiates where the process and details matter. What’s the due process here, can people see the prompt that judges them to be supporters? Is AI just highlighting “supporting” content for human review? Even if you support the idea in principle, the actual practical implementation should be treated with skepticism.

Even if it is intended as a hint to human observers, during a big scandal in my country a few years ago turned out all the gov officials where blindly following the computer advise. Many where falsely accused of fraud by tax authorities, almost all where from ethnic minorities.

Or Israel reportedly ordering assassinations in much the same way.

https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/

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post #61
post #8

I love how they insist that china is the terrible country that does nothing else, while in the west we have freedom.

Well most of the west still does, its just that US is right now much bigger evil and bully to rest of the world than China is or ever was. Expect some realignment in next 4 years, maybe oil won't be yet traded in CNY but who knows.

>its just that US is right now much bigger evil and bully to rest of the world than China is or ever was

Always has been. And part of the reason the US gets away with it (other than the threat of overwhelming nuclear-tipped military violence) is the effectiveness of Sinophobia and fear of the existential threat of "Communism" in manufacturing global consent for American imperialist hegemony.

The US can be toppling regimes and carpet-bombing weddings across the entire Western hemisphere, kidnapping people to CIA torture sites, spying on everyone and killing them over their metadata, and China can be doing nothing and Westerners will still be more afraid of China because "those insidious reds must be up to something."

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