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Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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Woah i like his other sideproject: https://driesdepoorter.be/product/shirt/ .

> A shirt whose price increases by 1 Euro with every purchase. The price is embroidered on the shirt.

Current price is 183EUR ! (EDIT means he made almost 17k EUR on this so far)

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

#62

This is beyond silly. You could be using your phone to factcheck something that relates to the ongoing discussion. Or having a side-chat with another member, privately expressing/requesting an opinion to provide context. Or to take quick notes. Or, nowadays, you might even be using an AI to keep a running summary of what the speaker has been rambling about in the last 50 minutes, translated from 'buzzspeak' to 'human…

If only we could just cut off their access to Twitter/X ...

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

#63
post #18

Living in a country that doesn't speak my first language, I use the dictionary all the time during meetings and presentations. I hate it when people tell me that’s rude.. Okay I'll just sit here and not understand what was said to keep up appearances?

Presumably that specific reason would not apply to high-level politicians in their own country, and if it did they would have a real-time translator.

In other wording, if someone is speaking about a subject I'm not entirely familiar with, I'd likely be googling different details to get a more real picture than the one presented by the person proposing changes. Incentives and all that. An issue with political discourse in parliaments is that it's a meeting with a lot of important people so you can't really ask for clarifications again and again as you would in a 5 person meeting at work if you don't understand something you feel might be important. Partially because if everyone started asking for clarifications the topics won't get anywhere and partially because it's politics so you have to appear competent at all times.

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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This is beyond silly. You could be using your phone to factcheck something that relates to the ongoing discussion. Or having a side-chat with another member, privately expressing/requesting an opinion to provide context. Or to take quick notes. Or, nowadays, you might even be using an AI to keep a running summary of what the speaker has been rambling about in the last 50 minutes, translated from 'buzzspeak' to 'human…

Angela Merkel was known to text during parliamentary sessions, sometimes with multiple phones, with colleagues about the ongoing debate.

Other anecdota: Nowadays it is only part of Green Party folklore from the past, but to knit in political sessions was a common sight. What is not so silly but just stupid is conservative delegates watching football during a sex work debate (2018, https://twitter.com/BoehmeMarco/status/1012001444302598146). In German Bundestag, parliamentary rules forbid to photograph "personal documents" (including phones and tablets) in a way that the content is recognizable.

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

#66
post #47

I mean if it wasn't the 21st century, they would be having a snooze or reading a newspaper or magazine probably. Having a politican 100% committed and listening all the time would be great, but they would quit in no time I'm sure, at least I would.

If they're not committed and listening they should quit immediately. Their work has an extremely outsized impact on their country. If they can't do their job they should leave and let someone else who can fill that role.

Do you ever “take a quick break” at work?

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

#67
post #33

Fun fact: this is quite likely illegal to do in the EU. If it should or should not be legal is a different question, but my understanding of present day law makes this not permissible.

Which law makes this illegal? Presumably the live stream is setup by the flemish government themselves, and they're all public figures acting in a public capacity. Maybe there is something else here, or some detail of Belgian law, but from the outside it doesn't seem there is much of a privacy argument.

Facial detection is processing of article 9 GDPR data which requires explicit consent.

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#68
post #51

Fun fact: this is quite likely illegal to do in the EU. If it should or should not be legal is a different question, but my understanding of present day law makes this not permissible.

It's not illegal, but unlawful for data controllers to process such personal data without free permission. But in this case there's likely an exception in GDPR article 85, for "For processing carried out for journalistic purposes or the purpose of academic artistic or literary expression" [1]. [1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/oj/eng#art_85

That does not give that right. It just asks states to carve out protections for journalism. Biometric data is very strictly regulated by the GDPR. The exceptions are listed in article 9.

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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post #20
post #4

He (oh he is you, OP) has got a lot of different projects, including one that was tracking people on EarthCam streams and trying to find their Instagram post (or the other way around): https://driesdepoorter.be/thefollower/ , which went sort of viral: https://mashable.com/article/instagram-stalking-ai-facial-re... I wonder why you self-promote and repost your "old" stuff though..

Yea kind of odd when the last post by which the submission about is from 2022 when it appears to be last active. If there was some update, revelation, or even just being active. I am seeing this person being referred as an "artist". Thinking its a ploy for sales... they arent really selling anything i would consider valuable or sellable (eye of the beholder?).

"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

#70

This is beyond silly. You could be using your phone to factcheck something that relates to the ongoing discussion. Or having a side-chat with another member, privately expressing/requesting an opinion to provide context. Or to take quick notes. Or, nowadays, you might even be using an AI to keep a running summary of what the speaker has been rambling about in the last 50 minutes, translated from 'buzzspeak' to 'human…

Angela Merkel was known to text during parliamentary sessions, sometimes with multiple phones, with colleagues about the ongoing debate. Other anecdota: Nowadays it is only part of Green Party folklore from the past, but to knit in political sessions was a common sight. What is not so silly but just stupid is conservative delegates watching football during a sex work debate (2018, https://twitter.com/BoehmeMarco/stat…

> Angela Merkel was known to text during parliamentary sessions, sometimes with multiple phones, with colleagues about the ongoing debate.

Legislative / collective council discussion has probably always had some sort of quieter back channel discussion. The low tech solution might be a whispered conversation, or might be conducted via pages/runners when decorum puts moving around the room out of reach.

Mobile devices mean you can use technology instead of runners.

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