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Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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I want an electric bike but I want to go places with it and I’m worried about it getting stolen when I lock it up outside a shop. Do you have one?

I'm lookimg at a folding e scooter

I wish they were half as heavy with 1/4 the range. Lightest ones are still like 10kg+?

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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I can't see how they can make at home charging more expensive without making all other electricity uses expensive and that will have severe backlash. On the go DC fast charging is already not cheap. It costs as much or more than gas.

They can mandate separate metering for the charging circuit and tax it to make u p for the lost gasoline taxes.

"Mandate" how? Unless they're doing expensive mandatory periodic inspections nothing is stopping me from plugging my EVSE into an outlet meant for a welder, dryer, pool pump, etc.

And can always charge L1 120v, even if it's unbearably slow.

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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I can't see how they can make at home charging more expensive without making all other electricity uses expensive and that will have severe backlash. On the go DC fast charging is already not cheap. It costs as much or more than gas.

Is it more expensive per mile though with all things considered?

Probably not.

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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Historical event. It’s all downhill from here. Related: Tracking global data on electric vehicles - https://ourworldindata.org/electric-car-sales

Great data, I wish it was updated for 2024. I think that article will come soon given that current data was from February of 2024 (for 2023 data).

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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They can mandate separate metering for the charging circuit and tax it to make u p for the lost gasoline taxes.

those gasoline taxes currently pay for roads. and EVs put more strain on roads due to their increased weight.

ICE vs EV difference is negligible compared to 18 wheelers and alike on road strain.

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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Unfortunately, the US would rather subject its consumers to legacy auto and Tesla prices and lack of competition vs enabling imports to drive down domestic prices to improve affordability. Poor policy is unfortunate.

And with the rest of the world covering to electric, we can expect negative economies of scale alongside the financial problems of economic contraction for combustion car makers. The coal companies started going bankrupt long before the end of coal. (hell it's still not over...) Simply because investors could see that it's a shrinking industry, making it impossible to get financing for new plants, mines, etc.

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Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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What's strange to me is according to the graph it's not just combustion engine cars that peaked, cars overall more or less did too, in the graph. Are trucks like the F150 not being captured by this data? How literal is "cars"?

Cars are too expensive new, that's why sales are down, imo

And rates have been terrible, which depress auto loans.

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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They can mandate separate metering for the charging circuit and tax it to make u p for the lost gasoline taxes.

"Mandate" how? Unless they're doing expensive mandatory periodic inspections nothing is stopping me from plugging my EVSE into an outlet meant for a welder, dryer, pool pump, etc. And can always charge L1 120v, even if it's unbearably slow.

Most people will have an electrician install a charging station. Sure, some people will dodge it, as they already dodge other building code requirements.

Or, they can just tax the car based on some average mileage statistics. That's what my state does. Registering an EV is substantially more expensive than an ICE vehicle.

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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Seems unlikely that we'll ever totally move away from combustion engines, simply due to sunk costs plus the advantages of energy density and quick refilling. I expect we'll see net-zero carbon emission gasoline and other hydrocarbons sold at the pump within the next few decades, produced with either solar or nuclear energy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer%E2%80%93Tropsch_proces...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8zOHZINyG8

Compressed natural gas (methane) is even easier to synthesize from the raw ingredients than gasoline or diesel fuels. It's used today in many city buses, fleet vehicles, and private cars in certain parts of the world:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabatier_reaction

Such fuels could become less attractive if we invent lighter, cheaper, and much faster-charging batteries than the current state of the art, but I'm not holding my breath.

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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those gasoline taxes currently pay for roads. and EVs put more strain on roads due to their increased weight.

ICE vs EV difference is negligible compared to 18 wheelers and alike on road strain.

And 18 wheelers pay a lot more road tax than passenger cars do.
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