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Sergey Brin says 60 hours a week is the 'sweet spot'

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Re: Sergey Brin says 60 hours a week is the 'sweet spot'

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I hope people see what that really means. Corporations with historically record profits are laying off people and their largest shareholders now start these oppressing talking points.

First, they made people fight for scraps. If I make 50k but my colleague makes 75k, we must compete. If an acquaintance makes 200k because they chose the right path in high school, they must be really wealthy, therefore I must take that expensive car loan to not look like I am falling too far behind. While truly wealthy people live in the parallel universe and we don't see them because they managed to isolate their lives so well from the normies.

Then, people must to go back to the office; I guess this one's been ticked as successful in their minds.

Now, a new talking point emerges: you must work 60 hours to build a tool that will, hopefully, according to them, get you laid off.

We are speedrunning into a Neuromancer-type present with barely any resistance. Personally, I believe it's a plutocrat's utopia and won't happen, but the cost of it will be a never-before-seen kind of revolution and crash, likely marked by war. In the end, nobody will benefit.

Re: Sergey Brin says 60 hours a week is the 'sweet spot'

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It's strange to have so much anti-sentiment here about the internal data that Google has. Of course Sergey doesn't have to spend 60 hours as he retired. I have never been asked to work more than 40 hours when I was working at Google, I had amazing salary, and I knew that the people who are getting promoted over level 4/5 were working on the weekends as well, 60 hours was just normal for them. Google has enough data t…

Google must have more PHds that most US Universities combined, and as you acknowledge 60 hours is the normal. The results speak to itself.

For the last 10 years, not a single innovative product out of selling ads, search sucks and have been outclassed in AI.

Maybe work smarter?

Re: Sergey Brin says 60 hours a week is the 'sweet spot'

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post #64

It's strange to have so much anti-sentiment here about the internal data that Google has. Of course Sergey doesn't have to spend 60 hours as he retired. I have never been asked to work more than 40 hours when I was working at Google, I had amazing salary, and I knew that the people who are getting promoted over level 4/5 were working on the weekends as well, 60 hours was just normal for them. Google has enough data t…

Google must have more PHds that most US Universities combined, and as you acknowledge 60 hours is the normal. The results speak to itself. For the last 10 years, not a single innovative product out of selling ads, search sucks and have been outclassed in AI. Maybe work smarter?

It's making more money selling ads than the AI companies selling AI, so it's classic innovators dilemma: they can't really launch an AI product that gives better quality results then Google search ads, which are really bad at this point.

I should have talked about the Google of pre 2010, while it was a great company and the time I also wanted to work 60 hours a week there.

For the current one, not so much

Re: Sergey Brin says 60 hours a week is the 'sweet spot'

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Can I suggest an experiment? Sergey could decide to be put in a shared cube farm for 6x 10s a week and see how long he lasts. I think there's a large difference between the fatigue invoked in work that is some variant of managerial "in meetings where it's low information hot takes 80% of the time" work, and actual engineering work where drafting design documents, working on code, and context switching while waiting f…

Do you imagine he never worked hard? Who is lacking imagination here?
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