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What, if anything, should I do about using Mozilla's Firefox

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Re: What, if anything, should I do about using Mozilla's Firefox

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Post by lurk2 »

huhtenberg wrote: post #2

** To clarify - looking for any Firefox alternative, not restricted to the Gecko engine Is Brave at all a viable alternative? Or do their own ads and all the crypto-shmypto make the switch moot? Tangentially - has anyone tried building Firefox from the source? [1] I wonder how feasible this would be as an alternative if coupled with disabling all unwanted parts of the browser. [1] https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.…

When I used Brave a few years ago the adblocking worked as advertised and the crypto features required an opt-in. The issue was that it was unstable after opening a few tabs and didn't have feature parity with Firefox.

Re: What, if anything, should I do about using Mozilla's Firefox

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Post by lurk2 »

afarah1 wrote: post #50
huhtenberg wrote: post #2

** To clarify - looking for any Firefox alternative, not restricted to the Gecko engine Is Brave at all a viable alternative? Or do their own ads and all the crypto-shmypto make the switch moot? Tangentially - has anyone tried building Firefox from the source? [1] I wonder how feasible this would be as an alternative if coupled with disabling all unwanted parts of the browser. [1] https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.…

Gentoo offers firefox built from source with various privacy defaults such as disabling telemetry: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/www-client/fi... It's regularly updated. It also offers a binary package with privacy default configs such as disabling Normandy which "allows Mozilla to push changes for default settings or even install new add-ons remotely": https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/…

Do you know if Mint does anything similar to this?

Re: What, if anything, should I do about using Mozilla's Firefox

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Post by hypeatei »

roenxi wrote: post #18

I'm not sold that avoiding Chromium is any sort of win. It seems to be BSD licensed. The code comes from a long and storied OSS tradition. It is unclear why that having multiple different browser engines is strategically important. As far as I know we've long left behind the world where a hobbyist project could reasonably expect to implement modern JavaScript. Brave's existence and success suggests that competitors b…

> As far as I know we've long left behind the world where a hobbyist project could reasonably expect to implement modern JavaScript.

You should look into Ladybird[0] then. Their JavaScript engine ("LibJS") scores very well in conformance test suite test262[1].

[0]: https://ladybird.org/

[1]: https://test262.fyi/

Re: What, if anything, should I do about using Mozilla's Firefox

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Post by rohin15 »

I've been using Brave at work for my default browser but Firefox for personal things. I've been really impressed by Brave and so, since the Firefox news, I have decided to use Brave as my personal browser. I understand it's chromium based which is a non-starter for some but that it's open source and that Brendan Eich isn't a Google fan makes it tenable for me to try.

Re: What, if anything, should I do about using Mozilla's Firefox

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Post by anta40 »

Havoc wrote: post #17

Switching between forks of it seems a bit pointless to me if the base project is in trouble. The Chrome/Chromium mono-culture google created is imo the problem here. Until a solution to that is found this will continue to be a problem

I'll wait for Ladybird to be more mature.

Until then, I'm more than happy with Thorium:

https://thorium.rocks/

So far, the only complain is it doesn't support Netflix (usual DRM stuff):

https://github.com/Alex313031/thorium/issues/523

Re: What, if anything, should I do about using Mozilla's Firefox

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Post by xandrius »

randunel wrote: post #49
jonatron wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both Radisson and Marriott work for me. I guess my IP address has a better reputation?

Radisson doesn't load on Firefox for me, only on chrome. Marriott doesn't load on chromium. I'm talking about the rooms pages, they show errors when loading prices. Static resources still load. The situation is similar with other websites behind akamai, such as US ESTA, the static resources load but all API calls fail. The IP address probably also matters, indeed.

This is untrue, did US ESTA fully on Firefox. Not sure what settings you use but the problem ain't FF nor the website.

Re: What, if anything, should I do about using Mozilla's Firefox

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

I basically do not care anymore. It is impossible, What I do do is use Mullvad VPN on my phone where you can block all ads, and I use hosts file and Mullvad on my Laptop.

The only thing that will kill surveillance capitalism (fascism?) is to stop giving them the eyeballs, so get everyone you know to do what I do.

Re: What, if anything, should I do about using Mozilla's Firefox

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Post by Timon3 »

roenxi wrote: post #18

I'm not sold that avoiding Chromium is any sort of win. It seems to be BSD licensed. The code comes from a long and storied OSS tradition. It is unclear why that having multiple different browser engines is strategically important. As far as I know we've long left behind the world where a hobbyist project could reasonably expect to implement modern JavaScript. Brave's existence and success suggests that competitors b…

IMO the critical factor will be whether any Chromium forks keep support for Manifest V2 alive. If yes, it will be a viable alternative to Firefox (or FF forks), but I haven't seen indication that a project will pick up the slack.

A browser without proper support for uBlock Origin or similar extensions isn't a browser I'm willing to use, even if ad-blocking is integrated into the browser itself. The freedom to actually control the browsing experience is essential for long-term user freedom.

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