Please don't read too much into this ;) We moved from self-hosted Discourse to hosted Discourse. The transfer was initiated late from the Mozilla side (my bad) and the automatic system from Discourse kicked in.
and it is now fixed!
Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]
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Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]
#62This doesn't feel like an oversight or an accident. It'll be interesting to see how they try to explain this away.
Why? Are you getting bad vibes or something?
It is way more likely to be an oversight.
Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a pretty good way to get the bill paid to be honest I also run a B2B SaaS and I have found that over time the customers who I think are going to be terrible for paying, typically tend to be very good at paying and the customers who I think are going to be very good for paying (in that they have good standing in the community in things like that) tend to be pretty bad at paying on time (and with NET30 and all) Ul…
Leaving your vendors hanging is literally taught and practiced among certain circles of entrepreneurs. Though not spelled out in explicit terms, they operate on the basis of "Fuck you, I got mine." They want a perpetual jackpot machine, and will stomp on anyone to get what they want, more money in the pursuit of even more money. They don't operate on the old mantra of "the boss is the last to get paid." You'll be abl…
I couldn’t believe this either until I saw it with my own eyes.
The entitlement is strong with some people. It is "a" force. But more tied to mediocrity than midiclorians. . .
Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]
#64Given that the discussion has moved to late payments generally, a question for freelancers and others who are subject to this:
Would you be up for a service which allowed you to automatically share intelligence on which companies are late payers? Benefits would potentially be:
- Find out in advance how late your will be paid
- Early warning of creditors doing aggressive cash management (aka going bust)
The idea would be that it would be funded by selling information about payers (not payees) eg, to insurance companies.
NB the obvious way to implement this is to get access to bank transactions, which I know requires a lot of trust. But maybe with eg the Open Banking API, there's some way to do it such that you can trust that only the right information is shared.
Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]
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Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a pretty good way to get the bill paid to be honest I also run a B2B SaaS and I have found that over time the customers who I think are going to be terrible for paying, typically tend to be very good at paying and the customers who I think are going to be very good for paying (in that they have good standing in the community in things like that) tend to be pretty bad at paying on time (and with NET30 and all) Ul…
Leaving your vendors hanging is literally taught and practiced among certain circles of entrepreneurs. Though not spelled out in explicit terms, they operate on the basis of "Fuck you, I got mine." They want a perpetual jackpot machine, and will stomp on anyone to get what they want, more money in the pursuit of even more money. They don't operate on the old mantra of "the boss is the last to get paid." You'll be abl…
I learned that lesson at the first place I worked. It was an accountant's office and the partner in charge of paying invoices would literally go through the outstanding ones and see which he thought he could get away without paying, even if they were overdue.
So even companies you might think will pay promptly, don't always do so.
Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a pretty good way to get the bill paid to be honest I also run a B2B SaaS and I have found that over time the customers who I think are going to be terrible for paying, typically tend to be very good at paying and the customers who I think are going to be very good for paying (in that they have good standing in the community in things like that) tend to be pretty bad at paying on time (and with NET30 and all) Ul…
Suspending a service is one thing. Advertising that it’s due to non paid bills is inexcusable. Also consider how many bridges you would burn if it’s in error. Or it’s a disputed payment.
If the bills are indeed not paid and the reason I don't see why it's "inexcusable". As long as you're not claiming they can't pay them or haven't paid them out of malice without proof you're just being truthful.
Keeping quiet when it's something simple is more weird to me. God forbid someone assumes massive corpo X is going bankrupt because of a web hosting bill..
Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]
#68Please don't read too much into this ;) We moved from self-hosted Discourse to hosted Discourse. The transfer was initiated late from the Mozilla side (my bad) and the automatic system from Discourse kicked in.
Thanks for the explanation!
Is there any chance to move away from the Discourse? It's a bit too slow (on any page opening), but the biggest issue is its hostile habit of catching the browser "find in page" hotkey (replacing the local find with the remote site search).
Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]
#69Please don't read too much into this ;) We moved from self-hosted Discourse to hosted Discourse. The transfer was initiated late from the Mozilla side (my bad) and the automatic system from Discourse kicked in.
With all other recent news from Mozilla (large scale firings, multiple leadership changes, the new ToS and removal of the promise to never sell our data...), I won't read too much into it but simply add it to the list.
Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a pretty good way to get the bill paid to be honest I also run a B2B SaaS and I have found that over time the customers who I think are going to be terrible for paying, typically tend to be very good at paying and the customers who I think are going to be very good for paying (in that they have good standing in the community in things like that) tend to be pretty bad at paying on time (and with NET30 and all) Ul…
Suspending a service is one thing. Advertising that it’s due to non paid bills is inexcusable. Also consider how many bridges you would burn if it’s in error. Or it’s a disputed payment.
No giving notice is public service against fraudulent organization. It indicates clearly that only proper way to operate with such organization is payment before service is provided.
Paying your bills should be first priority. No excuse, no crying. If you fail, fully own to it and terminate the chain of command involved.