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JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple

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Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple

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It is named ScreenSaver, when it clearly does not function as "screen saver" on iOS device. Apple is right.

The Fart App doesn't fart. It is not possible to make an iOS device produce flatulence. Therefore, it is misnamed and the name is confusing to users. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-fart-app/id370742001?mt=8

Other computing devices have screen savers, so it's why many would be "mislead" to think it's an actual screen saver app that magically enables their iDevice to show screen savers.

Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple

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Doesn't mean the brusqueness is appropriate or called for. I don't care what jwz has accomplished, basic human decency is something we should all strive for.

These people are attacking not only the independence of our profession but their consumers' human faculty for tinkering. IMHO the gloves should come farther off than they have.

Oh, you meant the peanut gallery on jwz's blog, not the app store asshats. Yeah, I wouldn't act like that, OTOH I don't have what it takes to write enough insightful and entertaining rants to become net.famous.

Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple

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The Fart App doesn't fart. It is not possible to make an iOS device produce flatulence. Therefore, it is misnamed and the name is confusing to users. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-fart-app/id370742001?mt=8

Other computing devices have screen savers, so it's why many would be "mislead" to think it's an actual screen saver app that magically enables their iDevice to show screen savers.

The subset of iOS users who would consider an instance of iOS hardware to be "a computing device" is quite small, particularly given the app store policies which discourage apps which allow iOS devices to be used for general purpose computing.

And in any event, the App Store contains products of similar functionality, e.g. live wallpaper.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/live-wallpapers-pro/id4994091...

Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other computing devices have screen savers, so it's why many would be "mislead" to think it's an actual screen saver app that magically enables their iDevice to show screen savers.

The subset of iOS users who would consider an instance of iOS hardware to be "a computing device" is quite small, particularly given the app store policies which discourage apps which allow iOS devices to be used for general purpose computing. And in any event, the App Store contains products of similar functionality, e.g. live wallpaper. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/live-wallpapers-pro/id4994091...

Yes, and look at the reviews. All of them were deceived, they think it's a scam, they demand a refund, they probably feel less safe about buying anything from App Store again, and other iOS developers pay (only slightly) the price of this "scammy" app. Apple should get rid of all such apps – it's better for the business (of Apple themselves and other iOS developers).

Why they approved "live wallpapers", but not "xScreenSaver"? I don't know. It sucks, it seems that their reviews are not consistent.

But just because they made a mistake (like approving "live wallpapers", which IMO is a misleading app created solely for the purpose of milking a few hundred dollars from naïve App Store customers) does not mean that it's okay to do it again.

Edit: look at the other apps created by the same developer: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/color-texting-for-message/id4... and http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/color-keyboard-pro-pimp-color... and http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/icon-skins-with-builder/id429... - all of them are misleading, making you believe you can do things on the iOS that you actually can't.

Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple

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I've already mentioned it here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4300688

> They rejected the app repeatedly for the following reasons: > - in-app purchase does not provide a restore button (which I've never seen in any other app btw) Really?! Every app I use has a restore button. As a user, I'm happy they reject your app. Otherwise, if I buy that "thing" from you (via IAP) on my iPhone, it's not available on my iPad, iPod touch, or even iPhone if I restore it to factory settings. The poin…

Even if the inapp purchase is to remove ads from the free version?

I couldn't find an appropriate reference for that specific case, and besides, I changed the purchase button to check for a restore first, an failing to find that, ask the user to pay. But that still didn't cut it with the reviewers, they wanted an explicit button named restore.

Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple

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> They rejected the app repeatedly for the following reasons: > - in-app purchase does not provide a restore button (which I've never seen in any other app btw) Really?! Every app I use has a restore button. As a user, I'm happy they reject your app. Otherwise, if I buy that "thing" from you (via IAP) on my iPhone, it's not available on my iPad, iPod touch, or even iPhone if I restore it to factory settings. The poin…

Even if the inapp purchase is to remove ads from the free version? I couldn't find an appropriate reference for that specific case, and besides, I changed the purchase button to check for a restore first, an failing to find that, ask the user to pay. But that still didn't cut it with the reviewers, they wanted an explicit button named restore.

> Even if the inapp purchase is to remove ads from the free version?

I think even in this case, yes, it should be there.

But if you've changed it (to something even more elegant) and they still rejected it, shame on them!

Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple

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Apple might be wrong, but jwz is a dick. Just read the comments on that link and see how abusive he is to the other commenters.

well yeah but ... those comments he's abusing are dumb as fuck. he just spent a month porting thousands of lines of low-level system code to a novel architecture. which is pretty hackerly. and the doofuses commenting about it can't be bothered to scroll up a few lines to read why their deep thought has already been completely discredited? it's the failure to abuse that level of moron thinking in the first place that's led to so much of that level of moron thinking.

Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple

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These people are attacking not only the independence of our profession but their consumers' human faculty for tinkering. IMHO the gloves should come farther off than they have.

Oh, you meant the peanut gallery on jwz's blog, not the app store asshats. Yeah, I wouldn't act like that, OTOH I don't have what it takes to write enough insightful and entertaining rants to become net.famous.

Actually I meant jwz himself. He's always so self righteous and pompous, which in my book is never something to strive for.

Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple

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The subset of iOS users who would consider an instance of iOS hardware to be "a computing device" is quite small, particularly given the app store policies which discourage apps which allow iOS devices to be used for general purpose computing. And in any event, the App Store contains products of similar functionality, e.g. live wallpaper. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/live-wallpapers-pro/id4994091...

Yes, and look at the reviews. All of them were deceived, they think it's a scam, they demand a refund, they probably feel less safe about buying anything from App Store again, and other iOS developers pay (only slightly) the price of this "scammy" app. Apple should get rid of all such apps – it's better for the business (of Apple themselves and other iOS developers). Why they approved "live wallpapers", but not "xScr…

If Apple was seriously concerned about the quality of apps, there would not be 650,000 of them. Incidentally, your post supports that thesis.
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