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Re: Managers given 200 characters to justify not firing nuclear regulators

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Post by jdsalaro »

wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #8

The Presidential Pardon being the underlying legal basis of everything. With that power, everything is legal.

> With that power, everything is legal.

Although I agree, here I disagree.

In general, the Executive branch, the Intelligence Community, Congress, the Courts, the Populace are all responsible for keeping the President's Office accountable, both officially and extra-officially. Officially, via legal and direct means. Extra-officially, by means of protest, mounting cultural as well as mediatic pressure, etc.

In our, as Trump's actions have greatly affected the international community as well, situation what's most concerning is the initial, slow but eventually complete and absolute breakdown of public discourse.

Truth is irrelevant, poise is impractical, facts are an obstacle, outrage and drama are the new assertive communication. It's all about Me and My Emotions, us versus them.

This has been the case increasingly, for years, on both sides of the political aisle. Everyone compartmentalizes everyone into the sub-groups they are a part of, until everyone is so compartmentalized that they are completely alone because there are no similarities left for any common ground whatsoever. Such is the dystopic portrait of a society in complete disarray.

Under those circumstances, everything is legal, simply because there's noone to enforce the commonly agreed upon Rule of Law.

Re: Managers given 200 characters to justify not firing nuclear regulators

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Post by pjc50 »

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #50
retinaros wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you believe Musk wont reach it you are dreaming. Just cutting all funding to all those NGO and those foreign news institutions will do it. In many countries a big chunk of governments workers are bs jobs and are just there to maintain an aging machine look like its working while helping reducing unemployment rate by financing useless jobs.

In the game Civilization, there are different ways to achieve victory, one of which is a Cultural Victory. A lot of the foreign aid the US does is kind of like this, where we're attempting to shift other countries to our way of life through a mix of direct aid, loans, news, and other methods. There's a real long term ROI on these things where it's inarguably to the US' benefit that other countries want to speak Engli…

It's extremely ironic that Musk is the one defunding all the US covert influence programs, which leftists have been complaining about for decades.

Re: Managers given 200 characters to justify not firing nuclear regulators

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Post by pjc50 »

cess11 wrote: post #43
ta2234234242 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know. Has DOGE accessed the nuclear codes yet for a first strike offensive towards Iran yet?

I don't think there are any "nuclear codes". I think they might have been a thing at some point in history since the idea is so pervasive, but in a crisis you'd not want someone to have to figure out some non-trivial password before MAD doctrine can be applied. Maybe I'm wrong, I know more about field tactics and guerilla warfare than grand strategy.

Apparently at one point they were set to "0000000".

Re: Managers given 200 characters to justify not firing nuclear regulators

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Post by scarface_74 »

retinaros wrote: post #39
scarface_74 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That still doesn’t make the math add up. Is saving .68% in federal spending a win especially with the proposed budget causing more deficit spending?

You remove the workers not to save on salary but to save on budget you will allocate to a department. Its like any company. The smaller the dept the smaller the budget and influence.

The math still doesn’t add up.

https://www.federalbudgetinpictures.com/where-does-all-the-m...

If you got rid of every department that DOGE is targeting completely, you still only save 8%

Re: Managers given 200 characters to justify not firing nuclear regulators

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Post by Aeolun »

bambax wrote: post #56
wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Assuming that anyone in the government still cares. Schneier hits the mark here. Government only works at all if people care. And if you tell someone that their job, and the organisation they work for - are of no value - then those people won't care any more. I don't know what the outcome would be of large swathes of the government either being fired or not caring any more but we're going to find out and I don't t…

Government is a huge ship where everything happens slowly. If you fire all sailors at once, you won't notice the difference immediately. The phantom ship continues to sail. Then engines start to heat up and fail. And if there's an obstacle along the way, it's game over. This is a dangerous game played by morons full of hubris. On June 16 YC organizes an "AI Startup School"; the first speaker is Elon Musk: https://www…

The good thing about these massive ships is that they take a loong time to sink.

If my guesses are correct, it’ll work just long enough for another administration to take over to deal with the fallout.

Re: Managers given 200 characters to justify not firing nuclear regulators

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Post by generic92034 »

cbg0 wrote: post #53
mnky9800n wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My fear is not that Russia and allies will fight a giant land war with all of Europe. It is that Putin will continue moving his lukachenko and viktor orban pieces and acquire new ones through out Europe that will effectively make Europe reliant on russia and in some ways controlled by Russia. They don’t need to own everything to control everything.

This push has been ongoing for year and the success has definitely been less than expected, with Finland and Sweden joining NATO. I think with the Americans stepping back, this will only strengthen ties between EU countries, though there still are issues which have to be solved on the energy sector to reduce reliance on Russia.

But do not underestimate the threat from certain pro-russian political parties in many EU countries. This is not the end of the development, yet.

Re: Managers given 200 characters to justify not firing nuclear regulators

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Post by shmobot »

Aeolun wrote: post #65
bambax wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Government is a huge ship where everything happens slowly. If you fire all sailors at once, you won't notice the difference immediately. The phantom ship continues to sail. Then engines start to heat up and fail. And if there's an obstacle along the way, it's game over. This is a dangerous game played by morons full of hubris. On June 16 YC organizes an "AI Startup School"; the first speaker is Elon Musk: https://www…

The good thing about these massive ships is that they take a loong time to sink. If my guesses are correct, it’ll work just long enough for another administration to take over to deal with the fallout.

Just be careful when using analogies. The massive ship named USSR sank in a matter of months.

Re: Managers given 200 characters to justify not firing nuclear regulators

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Post by FergusArgyll »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #2

Has the rest of the democratic world been making plans to reduce reliance on the US since the first Trump administration? Will this term be the end of the craziness or is this the end of the US as a super power?

> the end of the US as a super power

This take will age well and doesn't come from a place of rage. at all.

Re: Managers given 200 characters to justify not firing nuclear regulators

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Post by Aeolun »

bambax wrote: post #49

> Nuclear security is highly specialized, high-pressure work, but it's not particularly well paid, one employee told NPR. Given what's unfolded over the past 24 hours, "why would anybody want to take these jobs?" they asked. The people who will be hired in those jobs in the future are the ones who can't find any other job, and don't care one way or another. It will be a catastrophe of epic proportions, but hard to no…

I’m sure some Russian or Chinese immigrants will be only too happy to take these positions for peanuts.

Which isn’t something the he is worried about given how buddy buddy he is with their respective leaders.

Re: Managers given 200 characters to justify not firing nuclear regulators

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Post by retinaros »

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #50
retinaros wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you believe Musk wont reach it you are dreaming. Just cutting all funding to all those NGO and those foreign news institutions will do it. In many countries a big chunk of governments workers are bs jobs and are just there to maintain an aging machine look like its working while helping reducing unemployment rate by financing useless jobs.

In the game Civilization, there are different ways to achieve victory, one of which is a Cultural Victory. A lot of the foreign aid the US does is kind of like this, where we're attempting to shift other countries to our way of life through a mix of direct aid, loans, news, and other methods. There's a real long term ROI on these things where it's inarguably to the US' benefit that other countries want to speak Engli…

I totally agree with you. Except id pin it much less positively than you. The goal is not to help “allies” but to make sure they don’t outcompete us. This is what the money was for. Just like any superpower did (you know the russian interference you all hated)
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