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Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Windows 10 is the IPV4 of operating systems.

I thought that was Windows XP?

True story- when XP was released, all of the people "in the know" (among Windows users) used Win2k.

Nobody wanted to upgrade to XP. It was called the Fisher-Price OS because of the way they made the GUI colorful with oversized icons/shapes and rounded corners everywhere.

The old rule of thumb was that every other version was the good one, so people were naturally skeptical of XP (and after having seen ME, who could blame them). Not sure if that holds anymore, or if there is a good one.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I loved using windows for a long time. I could strip it down and it performed and stayed out of my way. It wasn't ever pretty, I didn't like a lot of it, but I could just get what I needed out of it. Then it started to change, UI / UX had about 20 different flavors. I couldn't find settings anymore. Updates would change settings / undo my explicit settings. Eventually it felt like I was using an ADWARE OS. I fled to…

In the last couple years I've used quite a bit of Windows and macOS (after many years using Linux exclusively), and I've found macOS to be my least favourite of the three. On the surface it looks similar to Linux, but it's all lies. My biggest grip is that very often I'll ask for a setting or solution to an issue and I kid you not, 80% of the time the response I get from mac users is you can't do that, but there's an app (and often it's a subscription based app). mac needs apps for things like mouse scrolling, placing windows, cleaning the keyboard without turning the laptop on, switching between windows, copying things to the clipboard, installing software... and the list goes on longer than I could possibly remember.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn’t nag you incessantly to upgrade to Windows 11

My Windows 10 install doesn't do that either, although I have no idea why it gave up (AFAIK there's no reason why it wouldn't be compatible).

That happened to some of my windows 10 installs too. People complained about getting nagged and I thought they were being dramatic.

Then windows decided it was my turn to be nagged and OH MAN I understood ...

I have no good answer for exactly how that situation plays out. I swear it's not a local device setting.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I loved using windows for a long time. I could strip it down and it performed and stayed out of my way. It wasn't ever pretty, I didn't like a lot of it, but I could just get what I needed out of it. Then it started to change, UI / UX had about 20 different flavors. I couldn't find settings anymore. Updates would change settings / undo my explicit settings. Eventually it felt like I was using an ADWARE OS. I fled to…

Macos has introduced many breaking changes in the past couple years. I'm getting pretty tired of Apple silently breaking services and adding new permissions.

For me, they've been way more nefarious than the all too frequent annoyance of the Windows update into the Edge upsell screen.

New boss, same as the old boss, I suppose.

I looked up a Windows "Server with Desktop Experience" license the other day and we're talking $1k+ here....I can't help but hover over the buy button.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

In fairness, it's the same for me with MacOS upgrades. I don't see the point and avoid them, and only do them when forced by support issues.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I loved using windows for a long time. I could strip it down and it performed and stayed out of my way. It wasn't ever pretty, I didn't like a lot of it, but I could just get what I needed out of it. Then it started to change, UI / UX had about 20 different flavors. I couldn't find settings anymore. Updates would change settings / undo my explicit settings. Eventually it felt like I was using an ADWARE OS. I fled to…

In the last couple years I've used quite a bit of Windows and macOS (after many years using Linux exclusively), and I've found macOS to be my least favourite of the three. On the surface it looks similar to Linux, but it's all lies. My biggest grip is that very often I'll ask for a setting or solution to an issue and I kid you not, 80% of the time the response I get from mac users is you can't do that, but there's an…

For me it's 100% of the linux I need so it's great there.

I do agree the "there's an app for that" is heavily ingrained in the online user suggestions. The mac power users giving suggestions are often VERY much not knowledgeable. Oddly I do find there often is a command line solution that is better than an app ... but it's NEVER the first suggestion and a pain to find out sometimes. That is a pain, I need to turn a thing off, not an app with 20 features surrounding it ;)

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt they would bother honestly, Wine/Proton being good further cements "just develop for Windows, everyone else will accommodate."

Think how Linux netbooks was dealt with, and XBox wanting a piece of handhelds market.

How were Linux netbooks dealt with?

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

#70

How’s the experience of emulating windows for gaming on macOS today? Like on a MacBook pro with their proprietary chip?

Not emulating the full OS, but I use Whisky Wine https://getwhisky.app/> to play TF2 / TF2Classic and it's fine.
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