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Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Post by evanelias »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #3
piperswe wrote: post #2

I'm befuddled that Automattic is still investing in adding features (e.g. federation) to Tumblr. There's just about no chance of them actually making money from it, because its users are just about the most monetization-hostile users on the Internet. It doesn't help that the CEO actively antagonized a large portion of the site not too long ago.

If they're converting Tumblr to Wordpress, I bet it will get folded into their main hosting solution eventually and Tumblr will cease to exist.

That doesn't make sense. The primary use-case (and traffic driver) for Tumblr is a social network for logged-in users, similar to Twitter but with some differences in the feature set.

The public blog network is a minority of traffic. If you've never actually been a Tumblr user, you won't have an understanding of the product at all.

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Post by evanelias »

piperswe wrote: post #2

I'm befuddled that Automattic is still investing in adding features (e.g. federation) to Tumblr. There's just about no chance of them actually making money from it, because its users are just about the most monetization-hostile users on the Internet. It doesn't help that the CEO actively antagonized a large portion of the site not too long ago.

> I'm befuddled that Automattic is still investing in adding features (e.g. federation) to Tumblr.

The article is saying the opposite though: they are not adding federation directly to Tumblr's own codebase. Instead, federation will come about from some planned future migration of Tumblr onto WordPress.com infrastructure, which already has that feature.

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Post by devilsdata »

rglullis wrote: post #55
novemp wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is, other people are also allowed to control who and what they see. You're not entitled to an audience.

How many of these people are going through these blocklists to properly verify the claims? And why should the users of my instance be penalized because someone found some reason to dislike me? If someone wants to block me , fine. But having the influence to push a whole server out of the wider network definitely counts as "too much power".

I want moderation on the platforms I go to. I don’t want to have to wade through cruft, even if there are false positives.

Also I don’t want anything pro-crypto on my feeds.

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Post by rglullis »

devilsdata wrote: post #63
rglullis wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many of these people are going through these blocklists to properly verify the claims? And why should the users of my instance be penalized because someone found some reason to dislike me? If someone wants to block me , fine. But having the influence to push a whole server out of the wider network definitely counts as "too much power".

I want moderation on the platforms I go to. I don’t want to have to wade through cruft, even if there are false positives. Also I don’t want anything pro-crypto on my feeds.

Can you guess how many people are talking about crypto on mastodon.social?

> Also I don’t want anything pro-crypto on my feeds.

Then just don't follow them?

Also, can you maybe try to be a little less judgemental? Your attitude is a perfect illustration for https://mastodon.social/@molily/113480811492965996

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Post by rglullis »

VectorLock wrote: post #56
rglullis wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many of these people are going through these blocklists to properly verify the claims? And why should the users of my instance be penalized because someone found some reason to dislike me? If someone wants to block me , fine. But having the influence to push a whole server out of the wider network definitely counts as "too much power".

Because that is their right to do so, and if the users of that instance disagree they can migrate to another one fairly easily?

> if the users of that instance disagree they can migrate to another one fairly easily

How will they disagree, if they don't even get to know who is getting blocked?

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Post by rglullis »

VectorLock wrote: post #57
echelon wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right, people do have the right to block whatever they want. But it's just shitty that someone else made the call, and now presumably many people are impacted. There's no recourse.

There is a recourse. Move instances.

Is your kid being pressured by their peers to conform? There is a solution for it, just change schools!

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Post by novemp »

rglullis wrote: post #65
VectorLock wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because that is their right to do so, and if the users of that instance disagree they can migrate to another one fairly easily?

> if the users of that instance disagree they can migrate to another one fairly easily How will they disagree, if they don't even get to know who is getting blocked?

Most instances publish lists of who they block. It's a user's choice if they decide to register at an instance that does not publish that list.

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Post by novemp »

rglullis wrote: post #66
VectorLock wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a recourse. Move instances.

Is your kid being pressured by their peers to conform? There is a solution for it, just change schools!

Do you seriously think spending thousands of dollars and uprooting your life is comparable to registering at a different social media website?

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Post by echelon »

novemp wrote: post #68
rglullis wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is your kid being pressured by their peers to conform? There is a solution for it, just change schools!

Do you seriously think spending thousands of dollars and uprooting your life is comparable to registering at a different social media website?

I think the absurdity of the proposition is justified.

I got banned from my city's subreddit for questioning why folks were against anti-crime (moderate Democrat) politicians running for the city mayor's office. Now I can't participate at all: I can't ask my community for recommendations, take up offers on free concert tickets that are frequently given out, etc. Where else do I go for that?

Social media is a common carrier, and unelected mods are unwanted and unjustified authoritarians.

It should all just be a protocol. No platforms.

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Post by rglullis »

novemp wrote: post #68
rglullis wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is your kid being pressured by their peers to conform? There is a solution for it, just change schools!

Do you seriously think spending thousands of dollars and uprooting your life is comparable to registering at a different social media website?

You do realize that I am talking about an instance that I operate as a business and which has actual paying customers?

You are saying that it's okay for people to put my name on a list just because they have certain prejudices, and that it then becomes to other users to verify if the accusation is true?

Luckily for me, my customers are sensible people who are not particularly interested in following these drama-seeking, HOA personalities of Mastodon. They just want to go on with their lives and support someone who is at least providing a service and support the open web.

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