Apparently Yelp has a no-fly list • Hacker News Board

Re: Apparently Yelp has a no-fly list

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Post by dfxm12 » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 8:54 PM UTC

brigade wrote: post #57

dfxm12 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It didn't have to do with the name in and of itself, but the fact that it wasn't on the guest list. Did you ever get to the bottom of why it wasn't on the guest list? Did you ask the security guard (or did the guard offer) to get someone with authority to rectify the situation?

I'm curious, why is everyone in the comments assuming (contrary to the article and chriszf's comments) that this student wasn't on the guest list?

chriszf says nothing to the contrary in the article. We are given the facts: 1) You may only get in if you are on the list (of names) and 2) Student X did not get in.

Re: Apparently Yelp has a no-fly list

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 8:54 PM UTC

brigade wrote: post #57

dfxm12 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It didn't have to do with the name in and of itself, but the fact that it wasn't on the guest list. Did you ever get to the bottom of why it wasn't on the guest list? Did you ask the security guard (or did the guard offer) to get someone with authority to rectify the situation?

I'm curious, why is everyone in the comments assuming (contrary to the article and chriszf's comments) that this student wasn't on the guest list?

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Re: Apparently Yelp has a no-fly list

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Post by heretohelp » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 8:57 PM UTC

dustingetz wrote: post #15

Standard practice in Manhattan and Philadelphia at most office high-end office buildings. this is the world Americans live in. Yelp isn't in the business of protecting civil liberties. edit: standard practice to deny entry to non-badged persons who aren't on a pre-submited event guestlist. i've seen this, for example, at every tech meetup held in a downtown office building i've ever been to in Manhattan and Philadelp…

This is really not normal.

Re: Apparently Yelp has a no-fly list

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Post by Cushman » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 8:57 PM UTC

dustingetz wrote: post #15

Standard practice in Manhattan and Philadelphia at most office high-end office buildings. this is the world Americans live in. Yelp isn't in the business of protecting civil liberties. edit: standard practice to deny entry to non-badged persons who aren't on a pre-submited event guestlist. i've seen this, for example, at every tech meetup held in a downtown office building i've ever been to in Manhattan and Philadelp…

What makes you think her name wasn't on the list?

Re: Apparently Yelp has a no-fly list

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Post by suyash » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 9:01 PM UTC

I hate Yelp and the Security there, worst place to organize any meetup events!

Re: Apparently Yelp has a no-fly list

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Post by suyash » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 9:02 PM UTC

minikites wrote: post #6

I wonder if you can pay them a fee to hide the negative security reviews of your name.

haha..being Yelp..probably!

Re: Apparently Yelp has a no-fly list

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Post by justincormack » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 9:03 PM UTC

thegranderson wrote: post #59

justincormack wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Standard practise to do what exactly? Which names are banned?

It's standard practice to deny anyone who is not on the guest list or an employee. Simple as that. In my experience it's pretty easy to add people to the guest list as an employee, and the event organizer should have made sure that anyone who was missed was added live.

The person banned was on the guest list.

Re: Apparently Yelp has a no-fly list

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Post by Cushman » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 9:05 PM UTC

Important edit to the article: My students are adults, which wasn't really the point of the article (and wasn't clear). Their ridiculous exclusion policy is. As smart as kids are these days, I'm not sure a "Pinterest scaling talk" is something I'd take kids to.

A lot of people here are making some assumptions based on the idea that these were children, which is pretty interesting in itself.

Re: Apparently Yelp has a no-fly list

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Post by illuminate » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 9:09 PM UTC

I don't see the issue with businesses having a list of people who should not be admitted to a building no matter who guests them in. Certainly, fires were on a list of "do not enter" in a call center I worked at years ago, to avoid reprisal. My local Yelp seems to attract a different sort of troll considering the large amount of in-person interactions of its members and the psychopathic small-business owners who can't tolerate a bad review, or a series of bad reviews that reflect their attitude. This situation seems to have worked out poorly for all involved, but the policy of exclusion isn't necessarily the problem.

I don't understand why they couldn't have the desk find someone in HR or other related department (whoever issues the order) to confer with regarding this particular guest.

Re: Apparently Yelp has a no-fly list

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Post by wlesieutre » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 9:12 PM UTC

Cushman wrote: post #68

Important edit to the article: My students are adults, which wasn't really the point of the article (and wasn't clear). Their ridiculous exclusion policy is. As smart as kids are these days, I'm not sure a "Pinterest scaling talk" is something I'd take kids to. A lot of people here are making some assumptions based on the idea that these were children, which is pretty interesting in itself.

Especially since if they were kids "Direct her to the BART" might not be an appropriate response