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AI Startup School with Elon Musk, Satya Nadella, Sam Altman, Andrej Karpathy

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Re: AI Startup School with Elon Musk, Satya Nadella, Sam Altman, Andrej Karpathy

#61

I think the absolute least one could expect from notionally respectable businesses is to not invite people currently staging coups against the US to their shitty promo days.

Maybe it's a case of:

"When people show you who they are, believe them"

married to:

"Corporations are people"

i.e., they are a business, and if you ascribe (even notional) respectability to them, you're being naive.

Re: AI Startup School with Elon Musk, Satya Nadella, Sam Altman, Andrej Karpathy

#62

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> Like Sam Altman's abrupt Face-Heel turn from staunch and eloquent Trump critic into gushing bootlicker [0], Didn't the OpenAI drama (and the other stories about Altman that came out of that) already make it clear he is not a trustworthy person? > it is a shocking wakeup call that Silicon Valley monied interests either lack principles entirely, or else adhere to principles fundamentally at odds with liberal democrac…

In fairness, most of these Trump lickers are not "computer geeks." They're venture capitalists and businessmen working in tech who pretend to be geeks.

> In fairness, most of these Trump lickers are not "computer geeks." They're venture capitalists and businessmen working in tech who pretend to be geeks.

I'm not so sure. For instance Marc Andreessen coded as a kid (https://www.britannica.com/biography/Marc-Andreessen) and worked as a software developer employee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Andreessen#Early_life_and...). Elon Musk also coded as a kid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk#Early_life) and was doing development for his earliest startup (at least). They started as computer geeks and became "venture capitalists and businessmen" later.

Re: AI Startup School with Elon Musk, Satya Nadella, Sam Altman, Andrej Karpathy

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This tacit endorsement by YCombinator of the likes of Elon Musk and Sam Altman must be condemned in the strongest possible terms. Like Sam Altman's abrupt Face-Heel turn from staunch and eloquent Trump critic into gushing bootlicker [0], it is a shocking wakeup call that Silicon Valley monied interests either lack principles entirely, or else adhere to principles fundamentally at odds with liberal democracy [1]. I fo…

I was debating with someone else on here that the "base layer" is "men with guns" [1]

They responded that the base layer is "money".

I have to concede that the behavior of Tech bosses is easier to explain using the money model.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42938656

Re: AI Startup School with Elon Musk, Satya Nadella, Sam Altman, Andrej Karpathy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness, most of these Trump lickers are not "computer geeks." They're venture capitalists and businessmen working in tech who pretend to be geeks.

> In fairness, most of these Trump lickers are not "computer geeks." They're venture capitalists and businessmen working in tech who pretend to be geeks. I'm not so sure. For instance Marc Andreessen coded as a kid ( https://www.britannica.com/biography/Marc-Andreessen ) and worked as a software developer employee ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Andreessen#Early_life_and... ). Elon Musk also coded as a kid ( htt…

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Re: AI Startup School with Elon Musk, Satya Nadella, Sam Altman, Andrej Karpathy

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> In fairness, most of these Trump lickers are not "computer geeks." They're venture capitalists and businessmen working in tech who pretend to be geeks. I'm not so sure. For instance Marc Andreessen coded as a kid ( https://www.britannica.com/biography/Marc-Andreessen ) and worked as a software developer employee ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Andreessen#Early_life_and... ). Elon Musk also coded as a kid ( htt…

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> Musk lies about fucking everything and "geek" is just his polished marketing image.

He does lie all the time, and I definitely don't buy all the "he's a genius" talk, but I would be very surprised if he hadn't coded at all. His primary geek phase may have been mostly confined to childhood, though.

Re: AI Startup School with Elon Musk, Satya Nadella, Sam Altman, Andrej Karpathy

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post #52

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Musk has gone completely mask off, and many in VC land have followed. It's one thing to think the "woke" went too far or argue over some fringe issues.. its another to think any of the above statements are acceptable, make nazi salutes on stage (and then troll tweet about it), etc.

Hm, do you want to deny anyone with this opinion any opportunity for employment?

They can go work for some private sector racist, not the US government.

Re: AI Startup School with Elon Musk, Satya Nadella, Sam Altman, Andrej Karpathy

#69
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Nor does Satya. He has no expertise on the topic.

I'll disagree on this one. The goal here is to pair capital with talent (either via employment or funding), and almost nobody has deployed more capital into AI than Satya.

Exactly. Fiddling about with AI is one thing, productizing and fully operationalizing AI is a totally different problem and that’s Satya’s whole M.O.
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