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a president cannot pardon or commute state crimes. most states have crimes against violence

The majority of governors are all in on this new Republicanism. They can pardon any crime that Trump can't. Blue state governors can be leaned on extremely hard and most will have to give in if their Federal dollars are on the line. This isn't 2006 anymore.

> Blue state governors can be leaned on extremely hard and most will have to give in if their Federal dollars are on the line.

This is especially true if the courts roll over and reverse the Impoundment Act, which is exactly what the Project 2025 author and OMB nominee is pushing for. The president would be able to bankrupt any State, any entity that relies on federal funding, regardless of the wishes of Congress.

And arguably they could just do it: ignore any court judgment, and watch Congress do nothing. We know he won't ever be impeached and removed, so it's sort of a foregone conclusion that impoundment power can be seized at any time.

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Wonder how Elon is getting the clearance for this , dude smoked weed on camera , isn’t that automatically disqualifying for gov clearance ?

Trump did clearance by fiat for a number of officials who he knew could not pass traditional clearance processes; as President he has that power though President’s generally use the process that has been established rather than doing it ad hoc both because they realize that they are fallible so having proper vetting is substantively good, and because they want to avoid the appearance of personal favoritism/corruption (Trump, very clearly, shares neither of those concerns.)

Re: DOGE staffer resigns over racist posts

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I wish that made no sense. But instead we get dark synergy… Cruelty is the point. Chaos is the point. Stupidity is the point. Lies are the point. Racism/anti-“different” (including different ideas) is the point. Impunity is the point. Destruction is the point. What they have in common are in-our-face demonstrations of centralizing power, designed to encourage their base vicariously while stealing their lunch. And dis…

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Consistently hiring personally-loyal non-competent people with sketchy, crime-adjacent backgrounds, with histories of highly flexible loony tune views, isn’t an accident.

It isn’t at all difficult to recognize. It shouldn’t be hard to understand either. It is a very effective way to centralize power by replacing institutions with pawns.

Nor is the chaos being inflicted on those same institutions by targeted and random decrees. That many are vague and unbalancing is intentional. The aim isn’t to improve them, right-size them, or accomplish any national mission, etc. That would be a disaster if that was his goal. It is to kill any resistance to Trump in a way the constitution really has no effective response for.

As his power centralizes he will use his increased power to go after the next level of “threats” to his unmitigated power.

Where this stops, isn’t predictable. But given the chance, he won’t stop.

Regardless of your politics, it is an interesting historical moment, and worth seeing clearly. Trump is largely competently centralizing power to a degree we have not seen since Washington was given the greenfield mandate in which to oversee the raising up of our Constitutional institutions. An ironic difference from now.

If you want to understand the challenges and means of accruing power (with non-partisan, non-current-event nuance, and as it applies in any form of government), I recommend:

The Dictator's Handbook: Why Bad Behavior is Almost Always Good Politics [0]

It says “Dictator’s” but the book covers every type of government and the principles and resulting plays apply to all.

And there is always Machiavelli.

[0] https://a.co/d/gWKzfuz

Re: DOGE staffer resigns over racist posts

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If you're having a team going into every bit of government data, you might want to vet them. Beyond eugenicists and racists, if they're getting anywhere close to SCIFs, make sure they fill out that SF-86 accurately. And maybe even if they're not, have them go through regular clearance procedures. Yes, it takes time. But right now, DOGE seems like a huge security risk for the USG what with it setting up backdoors ever…

My take is that we actually need more efficiency in government, and from a technology standpoint, they might have some good ideas. I have a very pro-technology worldview. I'm independent leaning left but I thought that Democrats have been extreme, wasteful and untrustworthy in their own ways. It's very unfortunate that this stuff like efficiency and technology integration is now associated so closely with neo-Nazis.…

Blue team is hesitant to use its power in a lot of ways, and due to insisting on consensus most of the time they are handicapped. Red team actually seems to know what power is and how to use it--unfortunately for us, they lack discrimination and strategic planning in its application.

Blue team also required a bunch of thought-killing exercises and public signalling of things that are clearly inefficient and intellectually bankrupt and dishonest--this drove away a lot of smart people that actually wanted to get shit done, and made it easy for red team to point over and say "see, they're lying/delusional/woke?" as covering fire when red team pushed for their own odious agendas.

Blue team also not only failed to address issues but deliberately lied about them: the immigration crisis was pilloried when Trump wanted to build a wall, but once Biden took power a few weeks later suddenly _then_ the immigration crisis was a real policy concern. When people were complaining about the cost of food and goods, that was silly--but now that Trump's in power, suddenly we are told to care again. The attempted manufacturing of consent by the media on the left (and to be clear, red team does the same thing) is now too obvious not to be used against them.

Given all of this:

* Things aren't as bad as they're being made out to be, though they are serious.

* There is an entire industry relying on your fear and anxiety to exist, so practice good information hygiene.

* Maybe look beyond the obvious labels (woke, Nazi, marxist, fascist) to understand what's actually going on--don't be intellectually lazy.

* Revisit the things you think you know and why they're Good or not--and consider what others would think of them (for example, we can't both talk about how it's only a matter of years that "white" will be a minority in the US and that that's a good thing _and also_ claim that reactionary concerns about replacement are wholly unfounded).

Good luck to you.

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Paywall'd content. Not paying for this. Please use some archive website if you are sharing selome article.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42967011 - Someone linked to an archive site of the article 2 hours ago, at least an hour before your comment.

Re: DOGE staffer resigns over racist posts

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My take is that we actually need more efficiency in government, and from a technology standpoint, they might have some good ideas. I have a very pro-technology worldview. I'm independent leaning left but I thought that Democrats have been extreme, wasteful and untrustworthy in their own ways. It's very unfortunate that this stuff like efficiency and technology integration is now associated so closely with neo-Nazis.…

Blue team is hesitant to use its power in a lot of ways, and due to insisting on consensus most of the time they are handicapped. Red team actually seems to know what power is and how to use it--unfortunately for us, they lack discrimination and strategic planning in its application. Blue team also required a bunch of thought-killing exercises and public signalling of things that are clearly inefficient and intellect…

I would like to believe that those are just intellectually lazy labels. Are you sure it's not 100% accurate to say that Musk and Hegseth are neo-Nazis? Or that we are headed straight for new American Holocaust against Hispanics and a race-fueled third world war? I want that to be hysterical paranoia or "intellectually lazy labels". But look at the historical parallels.

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Musk has, and has had, top secret security clearance for years, due to his SpaceX work launching spy satellites for the US government.

The president has top secret clearance and doesn't have access to personal tax returns. I don't believe there is a blanket "all things included" security clearance.

I was merely answering the parent's comment, which they seem to have significantly edited after the fact.

But no, there is no "all things included" security clearance.

And you're right, POTUS does not normally have access to tax returns information, per 26 U.S.C. § 6103:

https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-26-internal-revenue-code/...

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Sources? Or are you just knowingly spreading false and defamatory claims?

"Sources? Or are you just knowingly spreaing false and defamatory claims because you feel emotional or want to signal your political affiliation?" -You, nullc aka Greg Maxwell , before being flagged for hysterically and partisanly carrying Musk's water, and then ninja-editing your comment so as not to appear to be hypocritical for feeling emotional or signaling your political affiliation.

Sources:

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/doge-staffer-out-after-soc...

>"Just for the record, I was racist before it was cool.” -@nullllptr

>“Normalize Indian hate." -@nullllptr

>"You could not pay me to marry outside of my ethnicity." -@nullllptr

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50695593

>"Pedo guy." -Elon Musk

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musk-transgender...

>"not a girl", "dead, killed by the woke mind virus" -Elon Musk

>[Musk's own estranged daughter] Wilson, 20, in an exclusive interview with NBC News, responded to comments Musk made Monday about her and her transgender identity. On social media and in an interview posted online, Musk said she was “not a girl” and was figuratively “dead,” and he alleged that he had been “tricked” into authorizing trans-related medical treatment for her when she was 16.

>“I was in fourth grade. We went on this road trip that I didn’t know was actually just an advertisement for one of the cars — I don’t remember which one — and he was constantly yelling at me viciously because my voice was too high,” she said. “It was cruel.”

>“I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form,” she said in the court filing.

>“I lost my son, essentially,” Musk said. He used Wilson’s birth name, also known as a deadname for transgender people, and said she was “dead, killed by the woke mind virus.”

>And in a post on X, Musk said Monday that Wilson was “born gay and slightly autistic” and that, at age 4, she fit certain gay stereotypes, such as loving musicals and using the exclamation “fabulous!” to describe certain clothing. Wilson told NBC News that the anecdotes aren’t true, though she said she did act stereotypically feminine in other ways as a child.

>“He doesn’t know what I was like as a child because he quite simply wasn’t there,” she wrote. “And in the little time that he was I was relentlessly harassed for my femininity and queerness.”

>“I’ve been reduced to a happy little stereotype,” she continued. “I think that says alot about how he views queer people and children in general.”

Re: DOGE staffer resigns over racist posts

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My take is that we actually need more efficiency in government, and from a technology standpoint, they might have some good ideas. I have a very pro-technology worldview. I'm independent leaning left but I thought that Democrats have been extreme, wasteful and untrustworthy in their own ways. It's very unfortunate that this stuff like efficiency and technology integration is now associated so closely with neo-Nazis.…

> dehumanisation of Chinese people What?

Hasn't started yet. Give it a few months or a year for the Taiwan situation to start to really boil and for them to have had their fill of rounding up Hispanics.
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