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Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by roenxi »

llamaimperative wrote: post #4

This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

> "Politics don't matter" though ;) Bummer!

1. Is there an argument here that the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report's unbroken publication record is so important it should switch votes?

2. They probably still filled the report in, so there is a chance it eventually gets published. No need to abandon hope yet.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by eth0up »

ceejayoz wrote: post #3
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #2

From the article: An tuberculosis outbreak in Kansas has become the largest in recorded history in the US....the CDC started monitoring TB in the US in the 1950s. "This is mainly due to the rapid number of cases in the short amount of time. There are a few other states that currently have large outbreaks that are also ongoing." People with an active infection feel sick and can spread it to others, while people with a…

> It is treatable with antibiotics. Treating it casually has led to widespread resistance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multidrug-resistant_tuberculos... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensively_drug-resistant_tub... > People with an active infection feel sick and can spread it to others, while people with a latent infection don't feel sick and can't spread it. https://www.who.int/teams/global-tuberculosis-programm…

>Treating it casually has led to widespread resistance.

I have long suspected this as part of why the subject isn't much discussed, despite being more prevalent than most realize.

The elephant here is (aside from latent infection) the atypically long duration of treatment, which can exceed 6 months and is harsh. Many, even otherwise responsible people, will founder before the proper end of treatment and this, I think, is what terrifies health professionals - so much, that it almost seems to be avoided.

It's probably time we start looking a bit harder for "natural" or alternate treatments. Some in medical journals, are under scrutiny, but inconclusive.

Edit: I also think we'll be finding more about latent infections being involved in an array of other ailments, especially when mixed with the ultra prevalent EBV. And EBV is involved in a lot.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by api »

malfist wrote: post #44
Havoc wrote: post #22

Is the CDC still a thing or did an executive order defund them too?

They were ordered to halt all publications, cancel trainings and not communicate with state health departments

What is the supposed rationale for this? Or is this just a general ideological purge of the government?

This is going to be a crazy four years, if it’s only four.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by hammock »

ysofunny wrote: post #52
thrance wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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but only because dead people don't buy eggs so it's expected lowered demand will "stabilize" prices. the numbers are what's important, people. (sorry (not sorry) for the angry sarcasm)

Has anyone died from the Kansas outbreak? Are you scaremongering? I checked the TB mortality in the US and it was 2 per 1,000,000 cases

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by SkyPuncher »

laidoffamazon wrote: post #15
llamaimperative wrote: post #4

This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

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Worth noting, 49.8% of the voting population wanted this. Voter turn out was 63.9% of the adult population. Which means the numbers are closer to

* 1/3 of adults voted for Trump

* 1/4 of the entire population voted for Trump (though, that's a bit of weird example since kids can't vote)

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by Waterluvian »

llamaimperative wrote: post #4

This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

I wonder if we’d do better in discourse to stop pointing at an “administration.” It is a reflection of what a plurality, often majority, of people want.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by et-al »

madhadron wrote: post #36
1oooqooq wrote: post #18

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The BCG vaccine is not protective against tuberculosis in adults. It helps prevent miliary tuberculosis in children. I did my graduate work on tuberculosis. Those of us who weren't vaccinated because of our country of origin refused to be because the vaccine wouldn't help us and it changes testing for TB from a quick skin test to a lung x-ray. It's not barbaric or corrupt or anti-vaccine in this case. It's details of…

To back this up, here's one perspective:

> TB continues to be one of the major public health threats. BCG is the only available vaccine against TB and confers significant protection against the childhood disease. However, the protective efficacy of BCG against adult pulmonary TB, which represents a larger burden of disease, is highly variable.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8712472/#abstract1

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Post by liontwist »

llamaimperative wrote: post #4

This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

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Post by et-al »

avs733 wrote: post #6
llamaimperative wrote: post #4

This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

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Post by thinkingtoilet »

mjevans wrote: post #19
laidoffamazon wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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"None of the Above" (see Bruster's Millions (Movie)) really needs to be an option...

Or you can be an adult and vote for the best option. Harris and the Democratic establishment are certainly not saints and I could rant for hours at how bad they are, but she was a competent woman and at least tried to float solutions to our problems as opposed to being a party of billionaires who is happy to burn it all down.
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