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Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

#61

I took the bite and made an account on Bluesky, my first time on such social media. Very disappointing thus far: I have been pestered and followed by bots and no amount of blocking does anything. I am trying to curate my feeds with mutes, blocks and "I want to see less of this" to cultivate an art/science/nature/programming feed, and the app keeps shoving politics and rage bait down my throat. Custom and Following fe…

I signed up, typed "c++" in the search bar, and the results were... gay porn.

I might reinstall and try again when the Rust lobby chills out.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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post #59

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> and offer them to their own residents as local tax funded service. Its an entirely plausible scenario It sadly isn't, if by this you mean that residents can create their profiles there and use it to post stuff. Because now every city is a social network operator that has to police the server. But even if the city only had a server with accounts for the city admin and only posting city stuff, that by itself would be…

> every city is a social network operator that has to police the server the "policing" problem (I think moderation is a better word) needs to be solved one way or another, there is no doubt about that. The question is what is the most democratic and economically viable way to do that. You need to find an organizational unit that embodies decentralization, has a stake in the matter and could realistically execute. Can…

> the "policing" problem (I think moderation is a better word)

I don't, because this also involves deciding who can have an account on your server, once you are federating then you also have to decide who you federate with and any possible defederations, what data to store etc.

> The question is what is the most democratic and economically viable way to do that.

It doesn't even have to be democratic; once it's federated with enough nodes in the network, freedom of movement of accounts between servers and a possibility of defederation between nodes, the democracy is somehow implicitly there. I'd say economical (or resource including admin and moderator) viability is the only important thing. People have to stay motivated; individuals will always come and go, it's just important there are enough people willing to work on infrastructure, motivated by money or otherwise.

> What the open source fediverse really needs at this point is a sustainable source of funding to reach more mass-market usability.

One think to consider is that it also needs sustained funding of operations, not only of development, as opposed to capital- and ad-funded commercial social networks. I'm doing my bit by sending a small amount of money to a mastodon server each month.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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I think Bluesky's content is largely defined by the crowd of people that left Twitter. Like Voat when Reddit had its embrace of censorship, only the other way around: opposite politics, and it's more based around being upset that perceived extremists are being given a platform.

This is incidentally why Mastodon seems to be less bad now. That group of people went there first, but then Mastodon's user growth stalled by some strange coincidence. Then they didn't want to be on the one that was apparently in decline so more of them switched to Bluesky. Which is kind of sad because from a technical perspective Bluesky seems to have some advantages (provided they fully extricate any dependencies o…

Mastodon's lack of growth or even perpetually declining MAU is not a coincidence. The community is obsessively anti-growth.

It's politically intolerant in the sense that the vibe is left to hard-left, and even within that sphere there's lot of infighting. Sure, you can use Mastodon as a normie centrist, but the culture is unappealing to many.

Any attempt to plug Mastodon into other decentralized media (Threads, Bluesky) is met with extreme hostility.

Any attempt to make Mastodon more discoverable and searchable is met with hostility. A vocal part of the community is obsessed with safety culture and consent.

Institutes, celebrities, influencers can't use Mastodon because there's no reach and users act like stung by a wasp when anything remotely commercial happens.

Anybody within Mastodon that tries to improve or grow things is shot down and crushed.

The guy that created Mastodon has sacrificed a decade of his life into this thing, for a compensation bordering poverty. He's under constant attack and framed as evil just because he didn't implement some random feature.

There's now a guy creating an Instagram clone called Pixelfed. He's white and talks hip hop slang. Which is close to inevitable for young men as it's deeply integrated into music, gaming, etc. He now stands accused of "cultural appropriation". As he did not immediately fall down to his knees to apologize, he's now framed as a racist.

There was a gay man running a large LGBT instance. Activists were flooding it with spoilers of that Harry Potter game. He tried to stop it and got angry at this behavior, after which he was bullied into a total breakdown, and shut down the instance.

There was a man running a large instance with supreme infra skills. The instance was ballooning. The instance was instant-fast and scaled beautifully. It was popular for being very middle of the road, a generic instance with decent moderation. It was the only instance at the time having a proper search experience. The activist community kept hammering on him for even enabling search and for his moderation not being strict enough, until he ultimately just gave up.

Mastodon doesn't grow because the vocal minority that runs it are chronically online purists that take sadistic joy in destroying anything that would grow it.

I mean, even Mozilla quit their experiment after 3 months. It's shockingly bad.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

#66

What happened to mastodon? We don’t just want to move from one walled garden to another.

Yes, why use a platform not run by a pure non-profit org - and run by a guy who sold their previous one?

I’m surprised to find someone who still believes “non profit” carries any weight.

These are all propaganda sites. The value is the influence.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

#67

I know it's a minority opinion with this crowd, but sports has such a large presence on X and I don't know why it's lagging moving to BlueSky. I like the categories on this site but "sports" doesn't even make the cut while "eSports" does.

I've found a lot of NHL content on Bluesky, to find people I went to a subreddit and searched for Bluesky to get recs on who to follow

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> every city is a social network operator that has to police the server the "policing" problem (I think moderation is a better word) needs to be solved one way or another, there is no doubt about that. The question is what is the most democratic and economically viable way to do that. You need to find an organizational unit that embodies decentralization, has a stake in the matter and could realistically execute. Can…

> the "policing" problem (I think moderation is a better word) I don't, because this also involves deciding who can have an account on your server, once you are federating then you also have to decide who you federate with and any possible defederations, what data to store etc. > The question is what is the most democratic and economically viable way to do that. It doesn't even have to be democratic; once it's federa…

I agree, there are countless issues and challenges (and ideas, designs etc. how to tackle them). The most fundamental is for mainstream, non-technical people to realize that "social media" is not rocket science invented by Zuck, its infrastructure. Every bit as vital (actually more) as the roads and parks and water utilities of a city.

There will be some happy surprises required to overcome the inertia of network effects but enshittification is now terminal, so it actually looks promising :-)

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

#70
Honestly, it just highlights how little traction Bluesky has. We tried it within our company's niche, but it's like a desert. Feeds that rarely get updated. 0 engagement. What's the point? Whatever you may think of the management, X does the job (and arguably better than before). You can just filter out the stuff you'd rather not see on your feed.

Also, I second the other commenter's mention of the lack of sports on BlueSky. That's a pretty large category not to have...

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