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Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by baq »

nolok wrote: post #57
baq wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a way they did. Europe outsourced their defense to the US, energy to Russia and manufacturing to China, now getting by all three, rather predictably.

I'm not sure if I'm more disappointed in you acting like "rest of the world" means europe only, or by you thinking europe is a unified identical blob. My country of france neither delegated its defense to the US nor its energy to Russia, for exemple.

Actually wanted to highlight France as one country which correctly identified the threat of US going batshit crazy soon after WW2 and positioned accordingly, but didn't want to go into nuance on this particular thread. Now that it's flagged, we can agree in peace.

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by Aeolun »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #46

This being flagged is interesting in itself.

Not really, it always happens to political posts. They garner too many comments versus upvotes in too short a time (probably because everyone is too outraged to press the upvote button), and it causes a switch to flip somewhere.

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by computerthings »

rofo1 wrote: post #58
computerthings wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You believe Elon Musk is somehow showing support for the National-Socialist party of the German working class? No, which is why nobody but people who want to downplay say this stuff. This is the second comment of this kind I saw. He's doing the Hitler salute, with a snarl, once to the crowd and once to Trump. He has no clue who Hitler is or what he did, just like he has no clue what RPC are, or what item level requ…

What is there to downplay? This is why engagement hunters on Twitter/X.com made a side by side comparison of "Democrats doing Nazi salute" over the years, and there are like 10 pictures there doing the same exact thing. It would be as bizarre to say those people were supporting NAZI Germany, too.

> It would be as bizarre to say those people were supporting NAZI Germany, too.

The person you replied to said "nazi salute". In context, it's clear the gesture is meant. Everything else comes solely from you.

And far-right groups everywhere are totally celebrating it by the way, you're aware of that, right? In a way they never did and wouldn't celebrate some random "gotcha" photo of a Democrat that has nothing to do with them. So you're just underlining the point.

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by AnonHP »

I understand that this post is flagged because it can start flame wars and “not curious conversations”, but I’m curious about what people here from different parts of the world are seeing for these search terms. If censorship is indeed happening either due to manual flags or “AI” algorithms, people need to know what’s happening and if this is just anecdotal or geography specific or could be spreading to other countries in other forms for other search words and terms.

I don’t have an Instagram account to verify this myself.

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

gigatexal wrote: post #17
ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #6

Seems like several platforms are complying with fascists, so we should definitely be switching to decentralised platforms to communicate safely.

What’s especially offputting is the media not covering Elon’s Nazi salute

I saw the BBC's article "Elon Musk's gesture at Trump rally draws scrutiny" - way to downplay a Nazi salute, BBC.

Musk has been promoting extreme right-wing opinions, conspiracies and outright lies for quite a while now and he's obviously seeing the Trump presidency as a key success in his plot for world domination, so he no longer needs to hide his fascism/racism etc.

Why other organisations are seeking to downplay actual Nazi salutes must be because they are scared of the power imbalance and seek to appease (hint: that never works).

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

rofo1 wrote: post #42
gigatexal wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s especially offputting is the media not covering Elon’s Nazi salute

Do you really believe this? Sincerely and honestly? You believe Elon Musk is somehow showing support for the National-Socialist party of the German working class? How is it possible to get to this level? Truly amazing.

> You believe Elon Musk is somehow showing support for the National-Socialist party of the German working class?

That's a bizarre comparison. Are you deliberately trying to build a straw-man and associate a known extreme right-wing, Nazi salute with socialism? You do realise that the Nazi party were not at all socialist - they called themselves that to trick and lie to the Germans.

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by pedrogpimenta »

AnonHP wrote: post #64

I understand that this post is flagged because it can start flame wars and “not curious conversations”, but I’m curious about what people here from different parts of the world are seeing for these search terms. If censorship is indeed happening either due to manual flags or “AI” algorithms, people need to know what’s happening and if this is just anecdotal or geography specific or could be spreading to other countri…

I get the same "We've hidden these results" on Instagram in Spain. But #democrats (plural) works and #fucktrump as well (a user here was saying that was censored but #fuckbiden was allowed)

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

Rodeoclash wrote: post #15
ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #6

Seems like several platforms are complying with fascists, so we should definitely be switching to decentralised platforms to communicate safely.

You cannot tech your way out of this.

No, but it seems like we'll need ways to co-ordinate resistance against the oppressors.

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by Wickedflickr »

glimmung wrote: post #55
baq wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a way they did. Europe outsourced their defense to the US, energy to Russia and manufacturing to China, now getting by all three, rather predictably.

We also outsourced our social media. That has to change - it's literally not safe. There is a lot of witless verbiage about the "town square", but precious little acknowledgement of the obvious fact that every town has its OWN square, and that's the point. For the last decade my feeds have been polluted by "content" about Brexit and Trump, almost all of which has been noise/distraction/propaganda. I'm sick to the bac…

I truly believe the Fediverse is a viable solution. I've found Lemmy to be an extremely viable alternative to Reddit. The fediverse, more than any other centralized solution, seems equipped to avoid the hellish pitfalls that profit-motive behemoths seemingly must sink into.

There is no monetization, corporate decisions, manipulative algorithms; just self-hosted open source instances as far as the eye can see. Certainly there are rough edges and a perceptible decrease in dopamine from using them, but surely that's worth toughing out as they shape up if it means stopping the unfathomable destruction of society that we're experiencing in real time from big tech?

In Manufacturing Consent, Noam Chomsky makes a powerful argument that independent, citizen owned media is of critical importance if we're to pull society to a better, more collaborative place. It doesn't get more 'citizen owned' than a web of interconnected self-hosted servers.

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