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Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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post #22

So I have a relatively large extended family covering a wide age range and we talk pretty frequently in a shared SMS group - most of them have noted the ban with a passing level of irritation but nobody's "freaking out" like if you lost access to a platform like Facebook, Twitter, or Discord that's more oriented around communication rather than consumption. I understand that people spend a lot of time doomscrolling o…

Perhaps this TikTok ban is a time to reflect around their addictions and cravings. A new year's resolution to go cold turkey and a chance to change a cure their own addictions. It is not the end of the world. Just the end of someone's supply of a brand of digital drug.

>"Perhaps this TikTok ban is a time to reflect around their addictions and cravings."

And tell "go fuck yourself" to FB, Instagram, X ... etc.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

#63

I'm really curious and somewhat worried about what the economic effect of this is going to be. There are a number of legitimate small businesses that saw a lot of, if not all of, their business and customer base through TikTok. Business that just will not be able to make the move to somewhere else. I personally know musicians, actors, and artists that got a lot of work through TikTok. People who actually create thing…

My cousin worked at a place where he would stream for 8 hours a day on tiktok and sell trading card packs and other collectables. I guess it was a bit like home shopping network. But his streams were kinda goofy and playful. I didn't really understand who the customers were. I guess some people found him entertaining and liked what he was selling.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

#64
post #57

I'm really curious and somewhat worried about what the economic effect of this is going to be. There are a number of legitimate small businesses that saw a lot of, if not all of, their business and customer base through TikTok. Business that just will not be able to make the move to somewhere else. I personally know musicians, actors, and artists that got a lot of work through TikTok. People who actually create thing…

There's nothing inherently special about TikTok. It just happens to be the hot social media platform right now. There were plenty before it and there will be plenty after it. There will be a short period of adjustment and eventually everyone will move on to something else. People aren't going to stop listening to music or buying things.

Are you sure about this? I've heard many many times that tiktok is uniquely good at discovery for new businesses.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

#65
post #17

Did they also delist themselves from the App Store or is that by Apple and Google?

The text of the bill explicitly holds app marketplaces liable for civil penalties if they distribute "foreign adversary controlled applications". So my guess is that Apple and Google are both opting to prevent distribution, even if ByteDance is willing to delist TikTok itself https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521...

>"The text of the bill explicitly holds app marketplaces liable for civil penalties if they distribute "foreign adversary controlled applications"."

Spirit of the script seems to be stolen straight from the former USSR

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

#66
post #46

I'd like to discuss the pop-up's content. If it comes out to be that one guy, President Trump, CAN pass an executive order that effectively ignores a law that Congress passed AND the Supreme court upheld unanimously, it's a very dangerous precedent.

Congress themselves wrote in the president's authority to do this. Although it is unclear if doing it this late would fall within the law.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

#67

So I have a relatively large extended family covering a wide age range and we talk pretty frequently in a shared SMS group - most of them have noted the ban with a passing level of irritation but nobody's "freaking out" like if you lost access to a platform like Facebook, Twitter, or Discord that's more oriented around communication rather than consumption. I understand that people spend a lot of time doomscrolling o…

Except for people who's income depends on it. And their families. And their friends.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

#68
post #14

This'll be a pretty interesting psychological experiment. Tomorrow a whole lot of addicted people are going to be experiencing withdrawals at the same time. I have to assume nothing major will come of it, but still, there's not too many instances of this occurring in society, right?

Most people will just use Instagram Reels or YouTube shorts. They’re identical.

Or RedNote

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

#70
post #46

I'd like to discuss the pop-up's content. If it comes out to be that one guy, President Trump, CAN pass an executive order that effectively ignores a law that Congress passed AND the Supreme court upheld unanimously, it's a very dangerous precedent.

He can direct the justice department not to enforce a law.

Do you think he should? Do you think it's a healthy exercise in the country's checks and balances for the president to create a precedent where he directs the justice department to not enforce a law when Congress has drafted it, and the Supreme Court has unanimously upheld it? Last time anything like this has happened, it created devastating national history.
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