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BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

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Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

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Why?

Price to build quality/package ratio. For AUD 36ks you can get a BYD Dolphin Premium with blade LFP battery, which will give you around 450 to 500ks of range.Why would you buy a Tesla?

Yep. 20 years ago a Prius cost more then that new. Currently my next car will absolutely be a BYD.

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

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This ship might not be for peacefully exporting electric cars. China is making unmistakable preparations to invade Taiwan in the near future and RORO carrier vessels have clear military applications in such a scenario. Consider this analysis of the invasion barges they’re preparing: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Klkpk_hO4FQ

This boat could be easily sunk by drones or a guy with a big gun. Taiwan has plenty of both. Only way China sends this ship to Taiwan is if they already have a strong beach head and supply lines. At that point it’ll be tough for Taiwan either way.

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

#63

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Why?

Price to build quality/package ratio. For AUD 36ks you can get a BYD Dolphin Premium with blade LFP battery, which will give you around 450 to 500ks of range.Why would you buy a Tesla?

Tesla's charging infrastrucute is a competitive advantage.

Tesla's software is light years ahead of any other car manufacturer.

Tesla's safety rating is better than BYD.

Just to name three.

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Price to build quality/package ratio. For AUD 36ks you can get a BYD Dolphin Premium with blade LFP battery, which will give you around 450 to 500ks of range.Why would you buy a Tesla?

Tesla's charging infrastrucute is a competitive advantage. Tesla's software is light years ahead of any other car manufacturer. Tesla's safety rating is better than BYD. Just to name three.

> Tesla's charging infrastrucute is a competitive advantage.

Tesla's charging network being closed is detrimental to EVs.

Closed, incompatible infrastructure is dumb infrastructure. Closed, incompatible infrastructure is backward and primitive.

As a self respecting car buyer you should actively select against brands that try to lock you in and brands that try to shut you out.

What you want is smart infrastructure. You want to demand that all brands of EV can charge on all brands of charger with no dumb charging accounts.

The good news is Tesla chargers work with non-Tesla EVs. They've been open to all EVs in Europe for years. They're open to all EVs in Australia. Tesla has even started to open them to all EVs in North America.

It works because Tesla has adopted the CCS charging standard in North America (just like Tesla was already using in Europe and Australia). NACS is CCS charging with the J3400 plug. J3400 is the third plug type CCS supports.

Here's a Chevy Bolt charging on a Tesla charger in California. It works because it's CCS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu0HDdB9b2k&t=340s

Here's an MG charging on a Tesla charger in Australia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkOdoNO7fSQ

Here's a BMW charging on a Tesla charger in England: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y33AArvMUQ

Here's a Kia charging on a Tesla charger in England. No dumb Tesla account, no idiot Tesla app. Contactless payment just as Nature intended: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yflZN0dLT8s

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

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This ship might not be for peacefully exporting electric cars. China is making unmistakable preparations to invade Taiwan in the near future and RORO carrier vessels have clear military applications in such a scenario. Consider this analysis of the invasion barges they’re preparing: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Klkpk_hO4FQ

This boat could be easily sunk by drones or a guy with a big gun. Taiwan has plenty of both. Only way China sends this ship to Taiwan is if they already have a strong beach head and supply lines. At that point it’ll be tough for Taiwan either way.

> This boat could be easily sunk by drones or a guy with a big gun. Taiwan has plenty of both.

And China has plenty of RORO ships.

> Only way China sends this ship to Taiwan is if they already have a strong beach head and supply lines.

Yes, this is what I was saying here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42746043

These ships are the supply line. Sustaining a landing force after capturing a beachhead is an important problem and these ships are the solution.

> At that point it’ll be tough for Taiwan either way.

Yes but it will also be tough for China if their landing force can’t get reinforcements, food, fuel, and ammunition. A beachhead is just the beginning of a much harder fight to come through the cities and mountains of Taiwan.

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

#66

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This boat could be easily sunk by drones or a guy with a big gun. Taiwan has plenty of both. Only way China sends this ship to Taiwan is if they already have a strong beach head and supply lines. At that point it’ll be tough for Taiwan either way.

> This boat could be easily sunk by drones or a guy with a big gun. Taiwan has plenty of both. And China has plenty of RORO ships. > Only way China sends this ship to Taiwan is if they already have a strong beach head and supply lines. Yes, this is what I was saying here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42746043 These ships are the supply line. Sustaining a landing force after capturing a beachhead is an importa…

Even still it will be quite easy to sabotage these ships. Filling them with people will 100% lead to everyone on board dying at some point when the ship is sunk. Maybe Chinas ok with that I guess.

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Price to build quality/package ratio. For AUD 36ks you can get a BYD Dolphin Premium with blade LFP battery, which will give you around 450 to 500ks of range.Why would you buy a Tesla?

Tesla's charging infrastrucute is a competitive advantage. Tesla's software is light years ahead of any other car manufacturer. Tesla's safety rating is better than BYD. Just to name three.

BYD is not behind Tesla in safety with full score in ANCAP and software refinements dropping every now and then OTA. The UX of the BYD is far better as well with no forced minimalism.

https://www.ancap.com.au/safety-ratings/byd

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

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GOOD Point by my wife. Could they double purpose these ships as ferries? Seems like the same basic concept.

It's not well advertised, but you can book voyages on many cargo ships. They just give you one of the crew cabins and pack some more food. Expect to be the only passenger. There are some issues though. It's slow (slower than an ocean liner since ships are more efficient at low speeds). And it's a cargo vessel, so the cargo sets the schedule. If there's an issue with the cargo that delays the ship by three weeks, you…

As an astronomy buff, I would do that just to observe the stars from the ocean.

Do you know if they can turn off the bright lights at night? Even for just an hour, coordinated with the crew or captain? I might consider such a journey. I've never seen the southern hemisphere sky.

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

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GOOD Point by my wife. Could they double purpose these ships as ferries? Seems like the same basic concept.

It's not well advertised, but you can book voyages on many cargo ships. They just give you one of the crew cabins and pack some more food. Expect to be the only passenger. There are some issues though. It's slow (slower than an ocean liner since ships are more efficient at low speeds). And it's a cargo vessel, so the cargo sets the schedule. If there's an issue with the cargo that delays the ship by three weeks, you…

Got any links/contacts where you can book this?
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