I couldn't stand plain vanilla X either and entirely sympathize. I did leave it, for several years. But now, my heavily curated X feed (I use Control Panel for Twitter) is the single highest signal to noise news source I've found in five decades as an obsessive infovore. I filter out everything but the direct opinions of specific contributors, creating the bespoke daily newspaper I dreamed of for so long. I'd really rather that this wasn't the product of a centralized platform and would happily leap to a decentralized platform with similar value. But I won't let perfect be the enemy of the best collection of smart people I like to listen to I've yet to find except maybe on HN. And HN would benefit from better curation options too.
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Curious: what happens when Bluesky has all the same people/posts as Twitter? Will it be any better? Or will it just be the same thing on a new website?
Same thing but without Elon Musk. At this point (not) moving to Bluesky is just a vote of (no) confidence against Elon.
No, it's not just that. Twitter had already been going downhill when Musk took over. Even if the old ownership was still in charge, now would be a good time for early adopters to find the next generation of platforms.
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#63Anecdotal, but so many people in my circles have jumped ship to Bluesky that the transition is pretty seamless at this point. It feels more like Twitter than what became of Twitter does.
I'm not sure why but blue sky serves me a lot of very specific content I'm not interested in seeing and no matter how many dozens of pictures I choose (show less like this) on, it continues to show.
I've basically stopped using it.
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#64The people fleeing X are leaving because they are being exposed to views that they disagree with and they can't stand to see it, except bluesky and mastadon are even more draconian and capricious than before Elon buying it. I'm staying because finally the views that I agree with are being exposed better, but still 50% of my feed is dominated by views that I disagree with but I can at least tolerate it now.
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#65The problem is that you are creating an echo chamber. My experience using let’s quit “insert company name” is that these echo chambers tend to be toxic and terrible. IE.. Gab, Truth Social, etc. It’s very difficult to do unless you can have broad consensus. I tend to use Twitter for an industry wide group and while a few individuals have moved, the Bluesky version just doesn’t have the reach or usefulness of the twit…
>The problem is that you are creating an echo chamber
Yeah but it's a left wing echo chamber and that's good! /s
Incognito window > bsky > discovery feed > every post is about US politics, Trump bad, rich people bad, Musk bad etc. Same shit just different colors
Bsky is not the answer, the only answer is not to use social media at all. And more or less that applies to HN too.
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#66I already did this two years ago. Twitter had already gone down the shitter a decade ago when the far right moved in, and by 2022 I was only using it to keep tabs on the Asahi Linux project. Marcan moving to Mastodon was enough to get me to abandon my account.
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It's exactly the opposite, but ok
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#67Anecdotal, but so many people in my circles have jumped ship to Bluesky that the transition is pretty seamless at this point. It feels more like Twitter than what became of Twitter does.
I big question is whether "official" accounts will move to Bluesky - governments, businesses, organizations, etc. I see some, but not too many. Of course, maybe that's fine, some people prefer it that way. But, for me, it seems nice to have a common place where organizations put out announcements.
Honestly I thought most of that was strictly Facebook's domain. Maybe that's just the consequences of living in a smaller metro than most, the folks around here are slower on the uptake of new tech. But yeah, none of my local municipal orgs are on Twitter or ever have been in any capacity. They use Facebook for everything, that and local businesses are the only reason I still have a Facebook account.
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#68At first, I really thought this was a bad idea. If you don't like reality, shutting yourself away in your own safe shell isn't helpful. The things you dislike will still be there, and by isolating yourself, you not only lose contact with them but also lose any chance to intervene.
However, over the last few months, Twitter/X has clearly become a propaganda tool that promotes a particular worldview (I won't say "a political party" because Elon Musk's project seems broader than just U.S. politics).
I feel like the protagonist of A Clockwork Orange: in one quick scroll, you'll see explosions, puppies, tits, Nazi supporters, and Elon Musk's tweets all mixed together.
Now, i agree it's time to leave the platform. He is going way too far using a social network to push his own agenda, is too evident why he spent 60 billon on this.
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#69Site seems like it was hugged to death.
My initial take on this is that it's probably just another one of a thousand "let's self-sort ourselves by political bias".
BlueSky has a CP problem (enter "does BlueSky have a CP problem" into your favorite search engine). BlueSky also has a problem with moderation; the pile-ons are trying to eradicate opposing (read: non-leftist) points of view. Don't take my word for it; it's even been reported here. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42159454
Facebook is full of ads, but at least finally Meta (or at least Zuckerberg) decided to ditch the "fact checkers" which were just a thin veneer over "suppressing non-leftist points-of-view".
X seems fun to me now but I am nervous that Yaccarino is starting to deviate from Musk's free speech vision in order to appease advertising cartels.
Truth is a right wing echo chamber.
Gab is an anti-semitic cesspool.
Telegram is annoying as its subscription/follow model is spammy.
No experience with Parler.
So overall I'm happy with X. YMMV. Don't put yourself in an echo chamber.
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#70I don't understand the obsession with hating on X/Musk right now. He has his opinions, but X is still a great platform, and last I checked, Mastodon and Bluesky still feel like echo chambers (and the latter has a lot of... furry content). In the quiet, it feels like the media moved from hating Trump to hating Musk, and people are now obsessing over amplifying that message. But for what gain? It all kind of reminds me…
Musk turned twitter into a far right echo chamber. Make a new account and navigate to the "for you" page: all you see is Elon Musk, Alex Jones, Andrew Tate and other far right "role models".
The media moved from hating Trump to Musk because the latter appears to hold more political power over the former, he already got his ways on H1B visas and a few other issues.
Musk also appears quite pathetic/sociopathic to non-MAGAs. He has many children he barely sees and often insults online, he was caught lying about a video game recently, and that's not even bringing up the sexual assault allegations.
He also switched from supporting Obama and considering himself a socialist to becoming the largest donor of the GOP in a few years.
Also, please reread Big Brother, because that comparison is very misplaced.