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'So immoral': gig economy workers forced to pay fee to receive their wages

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Re: 'So immoral': gig economy workers forced to pay fee to receive their wages

#61
Are these folks forced into "gig" work?

It used to cost me maybe 25 cents for a cup of coffee. Now, its like $25 to get my Starbuck's double-decaffeinated half-caf with a twist delivered by Doordash.

Gotta gig, 'cause the Inflation is Real, boomer!

Re: 'So immoral': gig economy workers forced to pay fee to receive their wages

#62

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What is the difference between a “gig worker” and an independent contractor? Jason Snell, the former editor of Macworld went independent after getting laid off from MacWorld. He purposefully put together streams of income consisting of podcasting, writing articles for different magazines - including MacWorld, writing for his own blog and writing technical books. He said out of those, because of the initial laws passe…

Contractors get to negotiate how much they are paid.

Gig workers do too. Isn’t the idea behind surge pricing is that people decide whether it is worth them working or not?

Re: 'So immoral': gig economy workers forced to pay fee to receive their wages

#65

This is kind of a weird framing. 30 days is longer period than probably acceptable, but most people get regular, lagging biweekly paychecks rather than getting their paycheck paid out continuously in infinitesimal chunks.

You missed the point.

They don't want to treat these workers as employees (so they can skip paying out benefits) but pay them like employees (at the end of the month; in fact even worse than that).

Re: 'So immoral': gig economy workers forced to pay fee to receive their wages

#66
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I got lucky, I wrecked my car (not while doing a gig) but my insurance company was like "were you doing a gig job?". Had to prove I wasn't. I don't get in many wrecks, had 1 in my life so far that was this bad (totaled car). edit: I'm aware you're supposed to get some kind of special business insurance but at the time I was not aware of that. Thankfully this insurance company who I had been with for almost 10 years h…

> Had to prove I wasn't. How did you prove it? What is their standard of evidence? My intuition says it would be difficult to prove a negative.

Screenshot of my (gig) app history, I guess arguably that can be faked

I do food deliveries primarily since my car isn't accepted as a passenger car

Re: 'So immoral': gig economy workers forced to pay fee to receive their wages

#67

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Your friends are not the ones I was calling out of touch. The company in the OP set up "a new payment system" without warning to their workers, and now people are getting paid 30 days later than previously agreed upon. If you think that the average person won't be impacted by not getting paid for a month, then yes, I stand by my statement.

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Re: 'So immoral': gig economy workers forced to pay fee to receive their wages

#68
Well, in Spain you have to pay a minimum 200€ fee every month just for the government to let you be self-employed, even if you make 0€ (and it gets steeper and steeper the higher your income is), on top of every other tax you also need to account for. Talk about immoral.

Re: 'So immoral': gig economy workers forced to pay fee to receive their wages

#69

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I can't help but feel the problem is that someone becomes "full time" in the US after exactly 40 hours. I feel like some kind of gradient system would be ideal. Like if you work 10 hours a week you get 25% of the cash value of benefits. That way, a company wouldn't be incentivized to keep them right below the limit.

This is such a great idea that I'm surprised I've never read anyone suggest it in all of my professional life.

Honestly I think the whole system runs on "let's pretend we're doing stuff for the workers but create loopholes so big business doesn't have to actually comply."
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