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Re: Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs

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Post by AndyNemmity »

ColdTakes wrote: post #5

That title image looks like it is from the set of a sitcom starring Mark Zuckerberg. DEI initiatives have always been a dog and pony show, not a thing executives have ever truly cared about and they are now in a political environment where they can show what they believe in. People will learn the hard way these companies have never cared about you.

Well said. What we need is real DEI initiatives. But private dictatorships don't care about this stuff. Only what marketing value they can gain from it.

Re: Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs

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Post by spondylosaurus »

jsheard wrote: post #6
spondylosaurus wrote: post #2

> We serve everyone. We are committed to making our products accessible, beneficial and universally impactful for everyone. The new(ly leaked) moderation guidelines might suggest otherwise...

Apparently they consider platforming hate speech to be beneficial because it could bolster sympathy for the groups being attacked. I wish I was joking. https://www.platformer.news/meta-new-trans-guidelines-hate-s... Alex Schultz, the company’s chief marketing officer and highest-ranking gay executive, suggested in an internal post that people seeing their queer friends and family members abused on Facebook and Instag…

And a marketer too! My god.

Kind of an insane stance to take considering we've seen exactly what happens when queer people's friends and family members get pummeled with anti-gay and anti-trans hate campaigns... which is that half of them end up falling for it and turning on their friend/family members.

Re: Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs

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Post by throwaway48476 »

jandrese wrote: post #51
AtlasBarfed wrote: post #15

This comment is based upon n two assumptions: 1) Twitter has imploded, and is on the road to Myspace level relevance 2) that implosion is due to a removal of moderation I'll try to keep it politically neutral. But this and other Facebook announcements means inexorable collapse is on the medium term horizon, because they mirror what Twitter did These actions could possibly be done with social network circa early to mi…

We've already run the experiment on what an unmoderated discussion forum looks like once it grows beyond a trivial number of users. It's called 4chan, specifically /b/. Twitter/X is just reinforcing the previous findings as it rapidly shifts into being another version of /b/. The shameless and the trolls push out the sensible people. It quickly devolves into conspiracy theories, grifts, porn, and propaganda.

4chan is moderated.

Re: Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs

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Post by paxys »

loeg wrote: post #45
dagmx wrote: post #4

Meta have some of the most double speak I’ve seen. They’ll say one set of virtuous sounding goals while completely undermining it in the same breath. This is just them running with their tails between their legs before the new admin takes over.

Suppose you made a bad policy decision and want to roll it back. How do you do that? Anything you do is going to piss someone off. I think they're trying to do it in a plausibly reasonable way without shitting on everyone who worked on it for a couple years.

It's funny how they suddenly realized and reversed every "wrong" policy decision made over many years just days before a new administration takes over. And these new policies are exactly aligned with what the administration wants.

Re: Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs

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Post by AndyNemmity »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #33
ColdTakes wrote: post #5

That title image looks like it is from the set of a sitcom starring Mark Zuckerberg. DEI initiatives have always been a dog and pony show, not a thing executives have ever truly cared about and they are now in a political environment where they can show what they believe in. People will learn the hard way these companies have never cared about you.

They may have been a dog and pony show but were definitely real and forced executives to change how they hire and promote in illegal, discriminatory ways.

Perhaps in your experience, I would be for them if they "forced executives to change how they hire".

From my perspective, that has not happened. My problem is their lack of teeth to do what they say they do.

Re: Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs

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Post by spondylosaurus »

praptak wrote: post #36
spondylosaurus wrote: post #2

> We serve everyone. We are committed to making our products accessible, beneficial and universally impactful for everyone. The new(ly leaked) moderation guidelines might suggest otherwise...

It is "everyone". Just like "all lives matter" is a deeply humanistic message about the sanctity of life of all human beings, nothing else.

Ha. Of course.

Re: Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs

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Post by thrance »

hypeatei wrote: post #44

Seems fine as it always appeared as virtue signaling to me. This is one less talking point that conservatives will use when literally anything happens.

They don't care about reality, watch them blame the democrats for everything wrong happening in the next 4 years, despite them no longer holding any meaningful power.

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Post by [deleted] »

returntocollege wrote: post #49
ceejayoz wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For anyone unfamiliar: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/meta-new-hate-spee... > “We do allow allegations of mental illness or abnormality when based on gender or sexual orientation, given political and religious discourse about transgenderism and homosexuality and common non-serious usage of words like ‘weird,’” the revised company guidelines read.

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