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BYD's electric supercar jumps over potholes and spikes

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Re: BYD's electric supercar jumps over potholes and spikes

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Post by kikimora »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #25
DoingIsLearning wrote: post #5

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It's a concept for R&D to try stuff out and for Marketing to get people to talk about the brand. I would be surprised an active system like this would survive the lifetime of a car without an unpalatable amount of maintenance and parts replacement.

Software adaptable suspension is nothing new. All this does is add some camera feedback and software smartness to the mix so it can anticipate obstacles and make real time adjustments to minimize their impact. That software will run fine for as long as the chips last. And technically the whole point here is to reduce shock impact which probably helps reducing the amount of wear and tear on the parts. It does look coo…

It will be so cool to turn your wheels while airborne! Landing will be hilarious. Seriously, I don’t think jumping car is a good idea.

Re: BYD's electric supercar jumps over potholes and spikes

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Post by RGamma »

Cumpiler69 wrote: post #58
shalmanese wrote: post #48

Americans have no idea how far advanced the Chinese car market is. The big feature 2 years ago was car starting to sprout LIDAR bumps but now that feature has become de rigueur enough that car brands need to figure out something new to stand out, hence the big push to advertise their active suspension. Nio's new ET9 is showing off their car doing tricks like bouncing a soccer ball ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3…

>Americans have no idea how far advanced the Chinese car market is. Americans have no reason to care about that. Their legacy car industry is now only a vestigial part of their economy. It's an acceptable casualty when the brunt of their economy is finance, tech and services, plus owning the printer to the world reserve currency and the largest military in the world by a long margin along with large fossil fuel reser…

There's considerable risk in that strategy if taken to the extreme. Because you could eventually outsource virtually everything, including critical dependencies, and then just be left with a sort of pure military-financial hegemony, but that can be a rather unstable equilibrium.

Not saying there's no tasteful way to stably approximate that state though (and even not requiring stepping on other's toes, which may actually help in combination with the right narrative).

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Post by cholantesh »

xnx wrote: post #60
torlok wrote: post #15

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We could have better public transport and walkable cities, but instead we're inventing self-driving cars.

Self-driving cars are public transportation and make cities more walkable.

Is this a joke? How does having more cars on the road, with the same capacity as other cars, and which rely on, adapt to and perpetuate the status quo of car-dependent infrastructure correlate with either of these things?

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Post by xnx »

cholantesh wrote: post #63
xnx wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Self-driving cars are public transportation and make cities more walkable.

Is this a joke? How does having more cars on the road, with the same capacity as other cars, and which rely on, adapt to and perpetuate the status quo of car-dependent infrastructure correlate with either of these things?

No. The goal of transport should not be to use a specific technology (trains, busses, cars, etc.). The goal of transport should be to move people and goods safely, efficiently, and quickly. When evaluated on those terms, legacy public transportation doesn't fare very well when compared to self-driving vehicles.

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Post by rawfan »

Cumpiler69 wrote: post #58
shalmanese wrote: post #48

Americans have no idea how far advanced the Chinese car market is. The big feature 2 years ago was car starting to sprout LIDAR bumps but now that feature has become de rigueur enough that car brands need to figure out something new to stand out, hence the big push to advertise their active suspension. Nio's new ET9 is showing off their car doing tricks like bouncing a soccer ball ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3…

>Americans have no idea how far advanced the Chinese car market is. Americans have no reason to care about that. Their legacy car industry is now only a vestigial part of their economy. It's an acceptable casualty when the brunt of their economy is finance, tech and services, plus owning the printer to the world reserve currency and the largest military in the world by a long margin along with large fossil fuel reser…

No idea where you get your news on Germany, but the only valid thing was the part about the auto industry being legacy. As someone working in the energy sector, I can gladly tell you we got rid off most dependencies, we’re 95% independent regarding electricity. Oil and coal are still a problem, but we’re getting there. That ballooning welfare deficit you talk about must be a joke, what are you even saying? Germany has a zero deficit policy in it’s constitution (which what’s actually causing trouble right now, especially regarding Ukraine help funding). Please also point me to information on unions fighting EV because I haven’t heard anything about this (being active in the largest German union).

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Post by amyames »

jgtrosh wrote: post #36
Hamuko wrote: post #30

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I'd be impressed if it managed to jump the speed bumps in school areas. Those are like what, 7 cm to 10 cm in elevation over a long distance?

In France, « dos d'ânes » (“donkey's backs”) are supposed to be 10cm high, with other measurements we'll defined, but about 80% are way more “violent” as a defensive tool used by municipalities. But that's nothing compared with mexican topes.

My favorite thing used to be counting the trails of oil from the topes wherever someone had knocked off their oil pan!

Re: BYD's electric supercar jumps over potholes and spikes

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Post by cholantesh »

xnx wrote: post #64
cholantesh wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this a joke? How does having more cars on the road, with the same capacity as other cars, and which rely on, adapt to and perpetuate the status quo of car-dependent infrastructure correlate with either of these things?

No. The goal of transport should not be to use a specific technology (trains, busses, cars, etc.). The goal of transport should be to move people and goods safely, efficiently, and quickly. When evaluated on those terms, legacy public transportation doesn't fare very well when compared to self-driving vehicles.

This is disingenuous. You yourself were discussing a specific technology as was the person you're replying to, and really, the specific technology is going to guide the conversation of what gets built. An autonomous car isn't the same as an autonomous train or a bus, and having a bunch of them on the roads does not create demand for other forms of transport or infrastructure that supports it.

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Post by nirui »

hawski wrote: post #57
nirui wrote: post #24

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> I don't even know who the CEO is Ah, the benefit of having a Chinese CEO, they tend to want less public attention to themselves. "Man don't want to be famous, like pig don't want to grow big" as people say. That, plus the fact BYD's founder/CEO (same guy) was not as flashy (reads "Unhinged") as Elon Musk. FYI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Chuanfu

When I hear Chinese CEO, I think they may be easily replaced and in the end the real CEO is Xi Jinping. I am sure it is a bit more complicated and I may have some prejudice, but how far am I? I would expect for a Chinese CEO that would behave like Elon Musk to disappear quite quickly. Am I wrong in this assessment as well?

> Chinese CEO that would behave like Elon Musk to disappear quite quickly

Why would you assume Elon Musk himself would immune from such "disappearing" if they pissed off someone powerful (like Xi Jinping or someone from other nations)? Have you see the man desecrate Xi Jinping or Vladimir Putin? If he likes to critic politician, why the redline?

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Post by Cumpiler69 »

RGamma wrote: post #62
Cumpiler69 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Americans have no idea how far advanced the Chinese car market is. Americans have no reason to care about that. Their legacy car industry is now only a vestigial part of their economy. It's an acceptable casualty when the brunt of their economy is finance, tech and services, plus owning the printer to the world reserve currency and the largest military in the world by a long margin along with large fossil fuel reser…

There's considerable risk in that strategy if taken to the extreme. Because you could eventually outsource virtually everything, including critical dependencies, and then just be left with a sort of pure military-financial hegemony, but that can be a rather unstable equilibrium. Not saying there's no tasteful way to stably approximate that state though (and even not requiring stepping on other's toes, which may actua…

>Because you could eventually outsource virtually everything

That's reductionist. I never said anything about outsourcing everything. Ford and GM aren't going anywhere but it's clear their importance is dwindling and will just be allowed to be on life support in the future rather than a core part of the US economy.

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