It's great and I'm never going back as long as it stays great. But I have one complaint: Maps. I have no solution to offer, but google maps is so damn good, the maps in Kagi which appear when clicking certain results (e.g. looking for a doctor) are almost unusable for me (slow, outdated).
A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
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Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#62I have used kagi for quite a while now, and i use it pretty much exclusively. I was unhappy with google ignoring many terms in my search queries and giving me results that I generally considered to be 'intro' pages and generic content, even when my searches were very specific. I have found kagi much better. I dont use any of the advanced stuff like summarisation or ai stuff, i just want search results that have my ke…
Google search is almost useless for anything but the most basic queries now. Anything technical and it ignores half of the search terms like you said.
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Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#63I've been subscribed to Kagi since trying it out early on in 2023 and have been paying the $10/mo for unlimited usage since they introduced that tier (if you are a heavy search user, I'd agree the $5/tier "limited" tier doesn't make so much sense). It takes a bit more clicking, but I found 6mo usage view https://kagi.com/settings?p=consumption&range=1 and its nice to check on it after having "lived with it" a while.…
Been using it for a year or two, but recently I've been making heavy use of LLM results using the ? character. I actually discovered this by accident while searching. Even though I have a ChatGPT subscription, the Kagi interface is faster to use for simple questions and I have web results underneath as a backup if the LLM answer isn't good enough. I agree with another poster that being able to test ultimate would be nice before I shell out more money.
Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#64I’d happily pay for it if they stopped doing AI bullshit. That I won’t pay for.
This isn't meant to persuade you, just sharing my own experience. I've found myself almost relying on Kagi's `Quick Answer`. Its fantastic having it off by default and being able to opt-in when I just want a quick summary of some brief search where the info cards don't give me what I want right away.
Agreed. I made a search for "big black sea bird with a name that starts with c" today, and the quick summary helped in a few seconds that Cormorant was the category I was trying to remember.
Glad I didn't have to click into results and dig through the faff, especially as there are plenty such birds.
Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#65I would like to emphasise Yandex as free alternative for specific queries. It was really relieving actually finding what I searched for.
Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#66I used Kagi for a year. It was a great experience, no ads, decent search results. I quit recently, when I discovered that they integrate with Yandex. I think it is unacceptable in the todays reality.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42349797
https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...
Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#67Kagi is a tough pill to swallow. Their search is hands down the best around, there's no other way around it. That being said, $10/mo is also expensive. The workaround I found is using Kagi Ultimate. I get access to Claude (and I'm still able to attach files + access a dozen other LLMs) for $25/mo, so I was able to cancel Claude and keep Kagi and get the best of both worlds from either product. Side note: incredible t…
I love it too, and I do think it's expensive, too. A lot of people laugh at thinking $10 (USD) pm is expensive, of course it's not huge money for most people. The problem is Kagi is a kind of "vote" towards moving the internet away from the ad-supported crapware trying to spy on your every click and capture your attention non-stop. If you're trying to replace a lot of free services with paid services to cast said vot…
It is tough.
For my company, it's easy: I pay for the tooling my devs need. Overly simplified, I only pay 50-65 % of that, because expenses lower taxes. And compared to salaries, a few hundred $ is not a big deal. If I think about the time it saves us and how much money we can make in that time, it's a no brainer. Even just having people enjoy their work more pays off.
There's opportunity cost. Ad supported services are not overly incentivised to provide a quality product in the long run, so it's a safe assumption to make that they will waste your time to some degree, at least as they mature and enshittify. Some are great, eventually they all become bad, in my experience. It can be smart to use free stuff while it's still good, with an eye on migrating.
I don't know how much sense it makes to apply this opportunity cost thinking to your personal time. I don't really do that, but I do try to reduce time spent on anything that annoys me, and to do more stuff that brings me joy or pride, even if it's not economical. Life is short.
Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#68I used Kagi for a year. It was a great experience, no ads, decent search results. I quit recently, when I discovered that they integrate with Yandex. I think it is unacceptable in the todays reality. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42349797 https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...
why? yandex is not just a great search engine but also a very promising company - at least was before it was brought to the dogs by US/EU.
Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#69I used Kagi for a year. It was a great experience, no ads, decent search results. I quit recently, when I discovered that they integrate with Yandex. I think it is unacceptable in the todays reality. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42349797 https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...
What do you use now? I mix
Perplexity and Google depending on the query, I wondered how that compares to Kagi. Yandex is a no-no for me as well
Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#70Long time Kagi subscriber here. I think their focus should be to reduce resource usage on their side and make servers cheaper to run. Not other shenanigans like t-shirt or FastGPT or whatever. They can then offer a more attractive price for general public, who has never paid for search before and gets caught in the headlights when they hear you pay. Because right now, they don’t even have 40k users and if it goes on…
Funnily enough I quite like my Kagi t-shirt. Especially because it does not look like a tech company shirt at all. Could they do better things with their time and money? Probably. Do I care? Not really.
But, I don't care about AI integrations either. I just like having decent search. And happy to pay for it as they seem to be doing things in the right spirit.