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An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by Peaker »

w1ntermute wrote: post #9
wavephorm wrote: post #7

Why after a few years is noone able to build a 10 inch tablet? I honestly don't care how good an Android tablet is, I'm just so accustomed to the iPad form factor that I won't give it up. To get me interested, an Android manufacturer needs to come up with a bezel-less 9" or 10" tablet with more screen real estate than the iPad.

I've had a Transformer Prime for several months and have been enjoying the supposedly unobtainable Android tablet experience that everyone is waiting for. It runs stock ICS and has a 10.1" screen, and I actually wish it had a bit more of a bezel. I really don't understand why people are ignoring the Transformer Prime. And the Transformer Infinity is coming out tomorrow, with a 1920x1200 screen, fixes to the Transform…

I bought a Galaxy Nexus phone for my girlfriend so we wouldn't have to worry about updates anymore.

It's still stuck on 4.0.1 with no update in sight...

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by heretohelp »

Peaker wrote: post #61
w1ntermute wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had a Transformer Prime for several months and have been enjoying the supposedly unobtainable Android tablet experience that everyone is waiting for. It runs stock ICS and has a 10.1" screen, and I actually wish it had a bit more of a bezel. I really don't understand why people are ignoring the Transformer Prime. And the Transformer Infinity is coming out tomorrow, with a 1920x1200 screen, fixes to the Transform…

I bought a Galaxy Nexus phone for my girlfriend so we wouldn't have to worry about updates anymore. It's still stuck on 4.0.1 with no update in sight...

Hi, running iOS 6 Beta 2 on my iPhone 4. We have it running on an iPhone 3GS too.

I used to own a really nice Android HTC G2. 'Cept the updates didn't seem to be rolling in.

Got tired of that quickly.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by dasil003 »

pooriaazimi wrote: post #55
pooriaazimi wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. You usually hold a 7" tablet closer to your eyes than a 10" one. So, for its pixels to appear the same to your poor eyes as pixels on an 246 ppi iPad 3, it must have a pixel density of 290 or so.

I think what I said is true. I can't understand why it's been downvoted...

I didn't downvote you, but I'm skeptical of the claim. They're both hand-held devices. I don't generally hold my Galaxy Nexus closer to my face than my iPad.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by ricardobeat »

vibrunazo wrote: post #60
georgemcbay wrote: post #3

I actually think that post-ICS and especially with Jelly Bean that Android is a superior tablet OS to iOS, at least for me. There's basically no feature on iOS that I miss when I'm on Android, but a few (eg. custom keyboards, the overall intent system, etc) that I miss when I'm on iOS. iOS still kills Android for app availability though (especially when it comes to "tablet optimized" apps) and between that and iOS ec…

> iOS still kills Android for app availability though (especially when it comes to "tablet optimized" apps) I keep hearing that. But never seen it backed up. Based on exactly what does people say this? There's no efficient way to "count" Android tablet optimized apps. So how do you compare? Is it because there are some major apps that still works bad on Android tablets? If so, which ones? I remember when Honeycomb ju…

There is a truckload of apps that are iOS only. iA writer, paper, penultimate, infinity blade, just off the top of my head. Great quality apps abound, and usually their iPad versions make great use of the screen real estate, instead of just rescaling the interface.

Lots of others have started on iOS and were only released for Android much later (Flipboard, Angry Birds, Instagram).

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by badusername »

pooriaazimi wrote: post #39
telcodud wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iPad 2 has a dpi of 132, Nexus 7 213, and iPad 3 264. Nexus 7, while not "retina", is closer to iPad 3 than iPad 2.

No. You usually hold a 7" tablet closer to your eyes than a 10" one. So, for its pixels to appear the same to your poor eyes as pixels on an 246 ppi iPad 3, it must have a pixel density of 290 or so.

You don't have to hold it any closer. I assume that there would just be less on the screen. Better to optimize for reading comfort than packing as much as possible on to the screen.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by SquareWheel »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #23
wavephorm wrote: post #7

Why after a few years is noone able to build a 10 inch tablet? I honestly don't care how good an Android tablet is, I'm just so accustomed to the iPad form factor that I won't give it up. To get me interested, an Android manufacturer needs to come up with a bezel-less 9" or 10" tablet with more screen real estate than the iPad.

Probably because Apple has sewn up all of the suppliers of high-quality 10" LCDs.

I was under the impression these screens are made in giant sheets and cut to size.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by ximeng »

vibrunazo wrote: post #60
georgemcbay wrote: post #3

I actually think that post-ICS and especially with Jelly Bean that Android is a superior tablet OS to iOS, at least for me. There's basically no feature on iOS that I miss when I'm on Android, but a few (eg. custom keyboards, the overall intent system, etc) that I miss when I'm on iOS. iOS still kills Android for app availability though (especially when it comes to "tablet optimized" apps) and between that and iOS ec…

> iOS still kills Android for app availability though (especially when it comes to "tablet optimized" apps) I keep hearing that. But never seen it backed up. Based on exactly what does people say this? There's no efficient way to "count" Android tablet optimized apps. So how do you compare? Is it because there are some major apps that still works bad on Android tablets? If so, which ones? I remember when Honeycomb ju…

I use skritter.com for practising Chinese. They recently released an iOS app after several months work. There is currently no plan to produce an Android app, partly because there is a partial web / flash solution available on Android, but I assume also that the numbers didn't add up for putting the work in to porting the iPhone app.

This is a must-have application for learning to write Chinese in my opinion, to the extent that people would buy an iOS device just to use it. There is no equivalent for Android. I carry around an iPhone as a work phone, and pretty much only use it for this.

So learning Chinese is a little niche, but I'm sure there are other niches where people rely on a particular app, this app is not available on Android, and so they wouldn't switch for this reason.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by ShellfishMeme »

r00fus wrote: post #17
eLobato wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to disagree on this. 7 inches are so much better when you want to read on the crowded NYC subway. I already tried with an iPad and it's a whole lot more inconvenient.

PDFs with images - ie, technical manuals or papers - still don't see it for a 7" screen. Reflow don't help much here.

The Nexus 7 has the same resolution that most 10" tablets have now, so why would you need reflow? Shouldn't everything look the same as on the current 10" tablets, just sharper?

It might be because my eyes are still young, but I prefer smaller screens with a high pixel density to larger screens with a lower pixel density.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by tjogin »

cageface wrote: post #2

I have to give Siegler credit for actually posting an objective review of an Android device. No matter which side you favor in the tablet wars I think you have to agree that we're better off as hackers and consumers in a market with real competition. Rather than picking sides we should be happy that Apple and Google are pushing each other to improve their hardware and software at a rate we rarely see in consumer elec…

An objective review is an oxymoron. All opinions are subjective by their very nature.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by davidlumley »

cageface wrote: post #59
taligent wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right so your definition of objective is "agrees with what I think". And if he doesn't then he works for Apple PR.

And if he doesn't then he works for Apple PR. Siegler's previous pieces very strongly give this impression.

Do they though? As a frequent reader of his blog, and related blogs I have always thought they read as someone who values the time Apple spends designing their product, which is why when Google release a product that is similarly well designed he values it too.
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