This might be a dumb question to ask, but what exactly is this useful for? B-Roll for YouTube videos? I'm not sure why so much effort is being put into something like this when the applications are so limited.
Veo 2: Our video generation model
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#62This might be a dumb question to ask, but what exactly is this useful for? B-Roll for YouTube videos? I'm not sure why so much effort is being put into something like this when the applications are so limited.
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> I'm not surprised this isn't open to the public by Google yet, Closed models aren't going to matter in the long run. Hunyuan and LTX both run on consumer hardware and produce videos similar in quality to Sora Turbo, yet you can train them and prompt them on anything. They fit into the open source ecosystem which makes building plugins and controls super easy. Video is going to play out in a way that resembles image…
> Hunyuan and LTX both run on consumer hardware Are there other versions than the official? > An NVIDIA GPU with CUDA support is required. > Recommended: We recommend using a GPU with 80GB of memory for better generation quality. https://github.com/Tencent/HunyuanVideo > I am getting CUDA out of memory on an Nvidia L4 with 24 GB of VRAM, even after using the bfloat16 optimization. https://github.com/Lightricks/LTX-Vi…
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And then suddenly this is not something that fascinates people anymore… in 10 years as non-synthetic becomes the new bio or artisan or whatever you like. Humanity has its ways of objecting accelerationism.
Are you kidding? TikTok is one of the easiest platforms to create for, and look at how much human attention it has sucked up. The attention/dopamine magnet is accelerating its transformation into a gravitational singularity for human minds.
I might be wrong, but AI videos are on the same path as AI generated images. Cool for the first year, then “ah ok, zero effort content”.
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Everyone has access to YouTube. It’s safe to assume that Sora was trained on it as well.
Does everyone have "legal" access to YouTube. In theory that should matter to something like Open(Closed)Ai. But who knows.
Why can't a silicon being train itself on Youtube as well?
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#66OpenAI is like the super luxurious yacht all pretty and shiny, while Google's AI department is the humongous nuclear submarine at least 5 times bigger than the yacht with a relatively cool conning tower, but not that spectacular to look at. Like the tanker which is still steering to fully align with the course people expect it to be, which they don't recognize that it will soon be there and be capable of rolling over…
google definitely does not have AGI hhaaha
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> Judging by how they've been trying to ram AI into YouTube creators workflows […] Thanks for sharing that video and post! One way to think about this stuff is to imagine that you are 14 and starting to create videos, art, music, etc in order to build a platform online. Maybe you dream of having 7 channels at the same time for your sundry hobbies and building audiences. For that 14 year old, these tools are available…
"remix culture" required skill and talent. Not everyone could be Girl Talk or make The Grey Album or Wugazi. The artists creating those projects clearly have hundreds if not thousands of hours of practice differentiating them from someone who just started pasting MP3s together in a DAW yesterday. If this is "just another tool" then my question is: does the output of someone who has used this tool for one thousand hou…
Yes. A thousand hours confers you with a much greater understanding of what it's capable of, its constraints, and how to best take advantage of these.
By comparison, consider photography: it is ostensibly only a few controls and a button, but getting quality results requires the user to understand the language of the medium.
> What the pro generative AI crowd doesn't seem to understand is that good art is not about _execution_ it's about _making deliberate choices_. While a master painter or guitarist may indeed pull off incredible technical feats, their execution is not the art in and of itself, it is widening the amount of choices they can make.
This is often not true, as evidenced by the pre-existing fields of generative art and evolutionary art. It's also a pretty reductive definition of art: viewers can often find art in something with no intentional artistry behind it.
> I've never met anyone who has spent significant time creating art react to generative AI as anything more than a toy.
It's a big world out there, and you haven't met everyone ;) Just this last week, I went to two art exhibitions in Paris that involved generative AI as part of the artwork; here's one of the pieces: https://www.muhka.be/en/exhibitions/agnieszka-polska-flowers...
Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model
#68OpenAI is like the super luxurious yacht all pretty and shiny, while Google's AI department is the humongous nuclear submarine at least 5 times bigger than the yacht with a relatively cool conning tower, but not that spectacular to look at. Like the tanker which is still steering to fully align with the course people expect it to be, which they don't recognize that it will soon be there and be capable of rolling over…
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And then suddenly this is not something that fascinates people anymore… in 10 years as non-synthetic becomes the new bio or artisan or whatever you like. Humanity has its ways of objecting accelerationism.
> Humanity has its ways of objecting accelerationism. Actually, typically human objection only slows it down and often it becomes a fringe movement, while the masses continue to consume the lowest common denominator. Take the revival of the flip phone, typewriter, etc. Sadly, technology marches on and life gets worse.
Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model
#70This might be a dumb question to ask, but what exactly is this useful for? B-Roll for YouTube videos? I'm not sure why so much effort is being put into something like this when the applications are so limited.