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OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Normally the word "whistleblower" means someone who revealed previously-unknown facts about an organization. In this case he's a former employee who had an interview where he criticized OpenAI, but the facts that he was in possession of were not only widely known at the time but were the subject of an ongoing lawsuit that had launched months prior. As much as I want to give this a charitable reading, the only explana…

No. Anytime someone potentially possesses information that is damning to a company and that person is killed… the low probability of such an even being a random coincidence is quite low. It is so low such that it is extremely reasonable to consider the potential for an actual assassination while not precluding that a coincidence is a possibility.

> Anytime someone potentially possesses information that is damning to a company and that person is killed… the low probability of such an even being a random coincidence is quite low.

You're running into the birthday paradox here. The probability of a specific witness dying before they can testify in a lawsuit is low. The probability of any one of dozens of people involved in a lawsuit dying before it's resolved is actually rather high.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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I wonder who called to ask about his well-being. The Boeing guy killed himself, this guy apparently killed himself. The pattern of David vs Goliath, where David kills himself, is almost becoming a pattern.

Boeing guy and OpenAI whistleblower were both seen as "not depressed" and have even gone far as to say that if anything happened to him that it wouldn't have been an accident. I'm not sure why there are so many comments trying to downplay and argue around whether OpenAI was a whistleblower or not he fits pretty much all the definition. OpenAI was suspected of using copyright data but that wasn't the only thing OpenAI…

> Boeing guy [...] were both seen as "not depressed" and have even gone far as to say that if anything happened to him that it wouldn't have been an accident.

Yes, but also, his own brother said:

“He was suffering from PTSD and anxiety attacks as a result of being subjected to the hostile work environment at Boeing, which we believe led to his death,”

Internet echo chambers love a good murder mystery, but dragging a quiet and honest employee who works in the trenches through a protracted, public, and stressful legal situation can be very tough.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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So, not at all the point of the article, but ... who does Mercury News think is benefited by the embedded map at the bottom of the article with a point just labeled "San Francisco, CA", centered at Market & Van Ness? It's not where the guy lived. If you're a non-local reader confused about where SF is, the map is far too zoomed in to show you.

The embedded map has a link to a "story map" that drops a pin for each recent story, mostly around the bay area. Probably a default to embed a zoom-in on each story's map entry at the bottom of the story text.

They mention "Lower Haight" and "Buchanan St" for the apartment location. In lieu of an exact address of his apartment, I feel like the marked location is reasonably close to situate the story within the area - within a half mile or so?

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, but as you note the legal definition doesn't apply here anyway, we're clearly using the colloquial definition of whistleblower. And that definition comes with the implication that powerful people would want a particular person dead. In this case I see very little reason to believe that would be the case. No one has hinted that this employee has more damning information than was already public knowledge, and th…

Well, I still disagree. In reality companies still retaliate against whistleblowers even when the information is already out there. (Hence the need for Congress, federal courts and the California Supreme Court to clarify that whistleblower activity is still protected even if the information is already known.) I, of course, am not proposing that OpenAI assassinated this person. Just pointing out that disclosures of kn…

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Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Normally the word "whistleblower" means someone who revealed previously-unknown facts about an organization. In this case he's a former employee who had an interview where he criticized OpenAI, but the facts that he was in possession of were not only widely known at the time but were the subject of an ongoing lawsuit that had launched months prior. As much as I want to give this a charitable reading, the only explana…

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Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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There are some pretty callous comments on this thread. This is really sad. Suchir was just 26, and graduated from Berkeley 3 years ago. Here’s his personal site: https://suchir.net/ . I think he was pretty brave for standing up against what is generally perceived as an injustice being done by one of the biggest companies in the world, just a few years out of college. I’m not sure how many people in his position would…

If I'm a whistleblower in an active case and I end up dead before testifying, I absolutely DO want the general public to speculate about my cause of death.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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I wonder who called to ask about his well-being. The Boeing guy killed himself, this guy apparently killed himself. The pattern of David vs Goliath, where David kills himself, is almost becoming a pattern.

> this guy apparently killed himself. where did you get that? this article doesn't say a cause of death.

> The medical examiner’s office has not released his cause of death, but police officials this week said there is “currently, no evidence of foul play.”
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