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Web Origami, for making websites where you can understand how they’re made

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Re: Web Origami, for making websites where you can understand how they’re made

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Whats wrong with just using HTML, Js and CSS for personal projects?

I do that. Duplicating the header, menu, and footer manually on every page is a pain in the ass. Not to mention the lack of minification.

You can just have git submodules for that.

Re: Web Origami, for making websites where you can understand how they’re made

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So... it's a static site generator? I've looked through the site, but I'm having trouble putting it in context. Sounds like it takes data and turns it into a static website. Is that right?

so, you're saying the claim of making websites where you can understand how they're made doesn't seem to hold up?

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Re: Web Origami, for making websites where you can understand how they’re made

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I'm using Origami on my website over at https://vale.rocks . I recently did a brief writeup about the implementation of my site, including touchings on Origami. I'm really loving it! https://vale.rocks/posts/the-implementation-of-this-site

When I scroll down, the "VALE" stuff goes above the menu, making both unreadable. Might want to fix that.

Re: Web Origami, for making websites where you can understand how they’re made

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I'm using Origami on my website over at https://vale.rocks . I recently did a brief writeup about the implementation of my site, including touchings on Origami. I'm really loving it! https://vale.rocks/posts/the-implementation-of-this-site

When I scroll down, the "VALE" stuff goes above the menu, making both unreadable. Might want to fix that.

Could you please elaborate on exactly what you're experiencing? Include your browser/OS if possible. Thanks for letting me know!

Re: Web Origami, for making websites where you can understand how they’re made

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When I scroll down, the "VALE" stuff goes above the menu, making both unreadable. Might want to fix that.

Could you please elaborate on exactly what you're experiencing? Include your browser/OS if possible. Thanks for letting me know!

https://i.imgur.com/tfB0qsa.png

Does this help? This happens as I scroll down till it is over the menu.

I am using Vivaldi 5.7.2921.65 (Stable channel) stable (64-bit).

Re: Web Origami, for making websites where you can understand how they’re made

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I do that. Duplicating the header, menu, and footer manually on every page is a pain in the ass. Not to mention the lack of minification.

Not sure I follow, do you not use templates and scripts to generate the static pages? I was a web developer 25 years ago and for the majority of projects we only made static sites, all templated and minified. My skills are somewhat "of that time". Recently I was asked to build a site to demonstrate some new software. It consisted of over 10k pages that once built would rarely, if ever be updated. I just scripted and…

That isn’t ridiculous and is in fact how the bulk of modern static site generators work. Hugo, Jeykll, Astro (the one I use), etc.

Re: Web Origami, for making websites where you can understand how they’re made

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Could you please elaborate on exactly what you're experiencing? Include your browser/OS if possible. Thanks for letting me know!

https://i.imgur.com/tfB0qsa.png Does this help? This happens as I scroll down till it is over the menu. I am using Vivaldi 5.7.2921.65 (Stable channel) stable (64-bit).

I very much treat this site as a testing ground for my learning and therefore generally start using new features as soon as they are newly available in Baseline. Hence, your browser, which hasn't been updated in over a year, is having issues rendering all the modern features. You might want to consider updating your browser, as it has some known security vulnerabilities.

Appreciate the photo and report though.

Re: Web Origami, for making websites where you can understand how they’re made

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Nothing, if they’re simple enough to do that. Not all of them are. I’m a commercial artist and designer, so things like layout are important and need to be updatable on multiple pages because individual pieces often have their own pages. Updating 15 nav headers in a gallery on your site to save a couple of hours setting up something better suited to the task is just terrible architectural planning. At the same time,…

Yea my point was that people love to overcomplicate their stuff. Having a whole infrastructure for a personal project that isnt even started yet is insane.

That depends on the project. I’m a technical artist— sometimes my personal projects get pretty elaborate and pretty technical and don’t have the equivalent of an MVP that can be put together with a few handmade pages. Even something like a simple gallery of images that each have their own page (or the functional equivalent) is going to involve a ridiculous amount of manual work right off the bat. The only dumb way to approach it is not considering the right tool for the job.

Re: Web Origami, for making websites where you can understand how they’re made

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https://i.imgur.com/tfB0qsa.png Does this help? This happens as I scroll down till it is over the menu. I am using Vivaldi 5.7.2921.65 (Stable channel) stable (64-bit).

I very much treat this site as a testing ground for my learning and therefore generally start using new features as soon as they are newly available in Baseline. Hence, your browser, which hasn't been updated in over a year, is having issues rendering all the modern features. You might want to consider updating your browser, as it has some known security vulnerabilities. Appreciate the photo and report though.

You are right, it is a bit dated. The website works with Firefox. I will update Vivaldi later and see if it works. I will get back to you if it does not work with the latest version of Vivaldi, which is Chromium-based.

Re: Web Origami, for making websites where you can understand how they’re made

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I think this issue better addressed in HTML spec. Basic functionality to include html snippets files in other HTML files should be standard. What am I missing?

How would that work? Now one request for a page becomes N requests for every bit of HTML the client needs to render?

That’s sorta the case with frames and asynchronously loaded stuff anyway though right? I think they just consider the problem solved in practice through scripting and frames. Besides, HTML doesn’t have room for that— they need room for all the features nobody uses and cares about. XD I’ve been writing HTML to some extent for 30 years and I periodically come across shit— not even new shit— that I swear I’ve never even heard of.
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