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Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by Tepix »

zapnuk wrote: post #49

They missed a big opportunity by not offering eu-hosted versions. Thats a big thing for complience. All LLM-providers reserve the right to save (up to 30days) and inspect/check prompts for their own complience. However, this means that company data is potentionally sotred out-of-cloud. This is already problematic, even more so when the storage location is outside the EU.

I'm not sure if hosting it in the EU will do any good for Amazon, there's still the US CLOUD Act: It doesn't really matter where the data is located.

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by lukev »

This is a digression, but I really wish Amazon would be more normal in their product descriptions.

Amazon is rapidly developing its own jargon such that you need to understand how Amazon talks about things (and its existing product lineup) before you can understand half of what they're saying about a new thing. The way they describe their products seems almost designed to obfuscate what they really do.

Every time they introduce something new, you have to click through several pages of announcements and docs just to ascertain what something actually is (an API, a new type of compute platform, a managed SaaS product?)

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by xendo »

jmward01 wrote: post #57

No audio support: The models are currently trained to process and understand video content solely based on the visual information in the video. They do not possess the capability to analyze or comprehend any audio components that are present in the video. This is blowing my mind. gemini-1.5-flash accidentally knows how to transcribe amazingly well but it is -very- hard to figure out how to use it well and now Amazon…

They also announced speech to speech and any to any models for early next year. I think you are underestimating the effort required to release 5 competitive models at the same time.

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by TheAceOfHearts »

They really should've tried to generate better video examples, those two videos that they show don't seem that impressive when you consider the amount of resources available to AWS. Like what even is the point of this? It's just generating more filler content without any substance. Maybe we'll reach the point where video generation gets outrageously good and I'll be proven wrong, but right now it seems really disappointing.

Right now when I see obviously AI generated images for book covers I take that as a signal of low quality. If AI generated videos continue to look this bad I think that'll also be a clear signal of low quality products.

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by trallnag »

outworlder wrote: post #54
jklinger410 wrote: post #36

It's really amusing how bad Amazon is at writing and designing UI. For a company of their size and scope it's practically unforgivable. But they always get away with it.

> It's really amusing how bad Amazon is at writing and designing UI. For most of AWS offerings, it literally doesn't matter and logging in to AWS Console is a break glass thing. Case in point: this very article. It uses boto3 to interface with AWS.

At the same time, AWS has tons of services that are explicitly designed for usage through the console. For example, many features of CloudWatch

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by Miraste »

lukev wrote: post #63

This is a digression, but I really wish Amazon would be more normal in their product descriptions. Amazon is rapidly developing its own jargon such that you need to understand how Amazon talks about things (and its existing product lineup) before you can understand half of what they're saying about a new thing. The way they describe their products seems almost designed to obfuscate what they really do. Every time the…

That may be generally true, but the linked page says Nova is a series of foundation models in the first sentence.

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Post by kvakvs »

lukev wrote: post #63

This is a digression, but I really wish Amazon would be more normal in their product descriptions. Amazon is rapidly developing its own jargon such that you need to understand how Amazon talks about things (and its existing product lineup) before you can understand half of what they're saying about a new thing. The way they describe their products seems almost designed to obfuscate what they really do. Every time the…

Amazontalk: We will save you costs Human language: We will make profit while you think you're saving the costs

Amazontalk: You can build on to analyze complex documents... Human language: There is no product, just some DIY tools.

Amazontalk: Provides the intelligence and flexibility Human language: We will charge your credit card in multiple obscure ways, and we'll be smart about it

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by qgin »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #11

Since Amazon are building their own frontier models, what's the point of their relationship with Anthropic ?

Not sure if this was the goal, but it does work well from a product perspective that Nova is a super-cheap model that is comparable to everything BUT Claude.

Re: Amazon Nova

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mikesurowiec wrote: post #27

A rough idea of the price differences... Per 1k tokens Input | Output Amazon Nova Micro: $0.000035 | $0.00014 Amazon Nova Lite: $0.00006 | $0.00024 Amazon Nova Pro: $0.0008 | $0.0032 Claude 3.5 Sonnet: $0.003 | $0.015 Claude 3.5 Haiku: $0.0008 | $0.0004 Claude 3 Opus: $0.015 | $0.075 Source: AWS Bedrock Pricing https://aws.amazon.com/bedrock/pricing/

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