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How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by stavros »

9x39 wrote: post #57
stavros wrote: post #31

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My problem with Confluence is that I want a wiki primarily to be able to find information, and secondarily to store information, and I can never find anything in Confluence. The search function seems to be optimized for maximum frustration.

That's really surprising. Any idea if it was Confluence self-hosted vs cloud? We have a pretty substantial Confluence Cloud and don't see the "search doesn't work" problem. Tangent: we have people who browse, and people who search, and ne'er the twain shall meet, but that's a different problem in page structure, conventions, tags, whatever.

It's Confluence cloud. I've looked for documents I myself have written, using the keywords I knew were in the title, and got irrelevant random pages. It's ridiculous.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by Arrowmaster »

stavros wrote: post #61
9x39 wrote: post #57

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That's really surprising. Any idea if it was Confluence self-hosted vs cloud? We have a pretty substantial Confluence Cloud and don't see the "search doesn't work" problem. Tangent: we have people who browse, and people who search, and ne'er the twain shall meet, but that's a different problem in page structure, conventions, tags, whatever.

It's Confluence cloud. I've looked for documents I myself have written, using the keywords I knew were in the title, and got irrelevant random pages. It's ridiculous.

This was my experience as well except even worse. When my employer was acquired by evil mega corp ISP, they took away our mediawiki and replaced it with confluence. But they also didn't give us write access and instead had a new technical documentation team doing it except they were just uploading Word docs to Confluence. We couldn't search for anything in the docs but even searching for article titles failed so we all just had to keep bookmarks to what we needed.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by Arrowmaster »

snozolli wrote: post #59
movedx wrote: post #34

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I agree. MediaWiki is a solid solution and is very easy to setup. You can one-click deploy on DigitalOcean for $10/month and just enable daily snapshots. You can even use a managed DB if you want.

You can one-click deploy on DigitalOcean for $10/month Am I the only person left who simply has a web server? Untar Mediawiki, edit a few config variables, run an established database script, and off you go. Maybe I'm wildly out of touch, but I don't see why everything has to be a container or a monthly paid service around here. I get it for something like an email server, where misconfiguration could lead to your se…

Container makes it easy to update. I don't need to go read the instructions about which files I need to replace or what to do about modified files. If it's built properly to run from a container and uses sane version numbering, all I need to do is pull the new image and restart the container.

There are still plenty of not sane container builds that don't make it easy. If I need to checkout a git repo and mount a path into the container it's not sane. Pulling an image and starting a docker-compose should be all that's needed.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by thunderbong »

cyberpunk wrote: post #25
thunderbong wrote: post #5

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I would have liked that too, except that I can't get oAuth integrated with fossil. That would solve so many problems.

Sit it behind oauth2-proxy?

Never knew about this. Have to give this a try. Would this work from the command line as well? For e.g. while doing `fossil clone`?

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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snozolli wrote: post #59
movedx wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. MediaWiki is a solid solution and is very easy to setup. You can one-click deploy on DigitalOcean for $10/month and just enable daily snapshots. You can even use a managed DB if you want.

You can one-click deploy on DigitalOcean for $10/month Am I the only person left who simply has a web server? Untar Mediawiki, edit a few config variables, run an established database script, and off you go. Maybe I'm wildly out of touch, but I don't see why everything has to be a container or a monthly paid service around here. I get it for something like an email server, where misconfiguration could lead to your se…

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Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by tommoor »

xyx0826 wrote: post #56
tommoor wrote: post #48

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Outline maintainer here, happy to see the rec and can answer any questions

Thank you for Outline, I used to self-host it for a team and it was a breeze compared to Google Docs or confluence. Does it support the use case of publishing the wiki as a public documentation site, while allowing authenticated users to edit?

It does, that's how it's own docs are put together –

https://docs.getoutline.com/s/guide

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by arunc »

tommoor wrote: post #48
maklu wrote: post #12

Can highly recommend outline ( https://www.getoutline.com/ ). You can self-host or opt for the hosted version. Built and maintained by one of the linear devs.

Outline maintainer here, happy to see the rec and can answer any questions

Outline looks great. Thanks for creating it. Few questions:

1. Does it support rendering OpenAPI json/yaml?

2. Also it seems like it supports Draw.io via public URL. That's a no go. Can it support draw.io diagrams via attachments?

3. Google drive support is nice. Do you plan on supporting OneDrive as well?

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by dtkav »

I've been working on a plugin (Relay) [0] for Obsidian that makes it real-time collaborative. Obsidian has the perfect user experience for markdown wiki-style notes, but it was lacking the realtime collaboration. We use Obsidian+Relay internally every day and it is so so much nicer than Confluence, Notion, or Google docs -- plus it is super extensible so we can use additional plugins for Claude, mermaid.js, etc.

[0] https://obsidian.md/plugins?id=system3-relay

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by bawolff »

jjmarr wrote: post #52
movedx wrote: post #32

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MediaWiki. Is there something wrong with the solution powering Wikipedia? It’s very simple to set up, and you can one-click deploy it on DigitalOcean for $10/month.

MediaWiki doesn't have full WYSIWYG. The Visual Editor is nice, but doesn't support templates.

What do you mean by this? You can use templates when editing pages with mediawiki's visual editor.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by amanzi »

tomxor wrote: post #35

I've stuck with Git based markdown wikis. Nice thing is that when the web app you were relying on enevitably dies the data format is portable. Currently using Gitea's built in per-repo wiki as a general wiki after we migrated from Gitlab to self hosted Gitea. As a bonus there's no maintenance burden, Gitea itself has super low maintenance burden, single portable binary (I use an APT repo), single config. Latency of N…

The software mentioned in the article, Wiki.js, is a Git-based system. I've been using it for years and have all my pages in a Git repository.
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