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Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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So the issue is that Netflix gets its performance from colocating caches of movies in ISP datacenters, and a live broadcast doesn't work with that. It's not just about the sheer numbers of viewers, it's that a live model totally undermines their entire infrastructure advantage. See: https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/

Correct, this is not Netflix’ regular cup of tea, and it’s a very different problem to solve. They can probably use their edge caches, but it’s challenging.

How YouTube does this? Netflix is like drop in the ocean when compared to.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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This Serrano fight is just an insane display of excellence. If anyone was waiting for the main card to tune in, I recommend tuning in now.

I know nothing about boxing and this fight was just ridiculously impressive. I kept tuning out of the earlier fights. They felt like some sort of filler. I didn’t get the allure. But Taylor v Serrano was just obvious talent that even I could appreciate it.

Serrano was robbed!

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I wonder if there will be any long term reputational repercussions for Netflix because of this. Amongst SWEs, Netflix is known for hiring the best people and their streaming service normally seems very solid. Other streaming services have definitely caught up a bit and are much more reliable then in the early days, but my impression still has always been that Netflix is a step above the rest technically. This sure do…

I don't spend much time streaming, but I got a glimpse of the Amazon Prime catalog yesterday, and was surprised at how many titles on the front page were movies I'd actually watch. Reminded me of Netflix a dozen years ago.

> Reminded me of Netflix a dozen years ago.

It's been pretty rough the last few years. So many great films and series, not to mention kids programming, removed to make way for mediocre NeTfLiX oRiGiNaLs and Bollywood trash.

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I wonder if there will be any long term reputational repercussions for Netflix because of this. Amongst SWEs, Netflix is known for hiring the best people and their streaming service normally seems very solid. Other streaming services have definitely caught up a bit and are much more reliable then in the early days, but my impression still has always been that Netflix is a step above the rest technically. This sure do…

Not the same demographic but their last large attempt at live was through a Love is blind reunion. It was the same thing, millions of people logging in, epic failure, nothing worked. They never tried to do a live reunion again. I suppose they should have to get the experience. Because they are hitting the same problems with a much bigger stake event.

yup wanted to say that live stream stuttering has happened before on Netflix - I don't think the reputation is deserved.

From a livestreaming standpoint, netflix is 0/x - for many large events such as love is blind, etc.

From a livestreaming standpoint, look to broadcast news, sports / Olympics broadcasters, etc and you'll see technology, equipment, bandwidth, planning, and professionalism at 1000x of netflix.

Heck, for publicly traded quarterly earnings livestream meetings, they book direct satellite time in addition to fiber to make sure they don't rely only on terrestrial networks which can fail. From a business standpoint, failure during a quarterly meeting stream can mean the destruction of a company (by making shareholders mad that they can't see and vote during the meeting making them push for internal change) - so the stakes are much higher than live entertainment streaming.

Netflix is good at many things, livestreaming is not one of those things.

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I wonder if there will be any long term reputational repercussions for Netflix because of this. Amongst SWEs, Netflix is known for hiring the best people and their streaming service normally seems very solid. Other streaming services have definitely caught up a bit and are much more reliable then in the early days, but my impression still has always been that Netflix is a step above the rest technically. This sure do…

Is cable and broadcast better for live TV? No scaling issues. Doesn't matter how many people tune in.

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I'm an engineering manager at a Fortune 500 company. The dumbest engineer on our team left for Netflix. He got a pay raise too. Our engineers are fucking morons. And this guy was the dumbest of the bunch. If you think Netflix hires top tier talent, you don't know Netflix.

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Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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This Serrano fight is just an insane display of excellence. If anyone was waiting for the main card to tune in, I recommend tuning in now.

I know nothing about boxing and this fight was just ridiculously impressive. I kept tuning out of the earlier fights. They felt like some sort of filler. I didn’t get the allure. But Taylor v Serrano was just obvious talent that even I could appreciate it.

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